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8 hours ago, Gabbro said:

Alamy Exclusive should be better promoted and marketed. Those are the photos attract would-be buyers to Alamy. Without them, Alamy is just another stock agency, has to compete against micros with the same collection, which I doubt you'll ever win in price. Cutting the Exclusive commission, stopping the flow of Exclusive makes absolutely no sense. 

Exactly. 

 

Exclusive images are Alamy's strength. Why give that strength up, voluntarily? 

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1 hour ago, Taina said:

Exactly. 

 

Exclusive images are Alamy's strength. Why give that strength up, voluntarily? 

 

and perhaps more of a strength if its a tightly edited and managed collection

 

 

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Just as a matter of interest have we had the new contract spelt out in layman's terms yet, from Alamy? Without the latter I'm assuming that you could plead a degree of ignorance in the event of being sued? T&Cs have to be in easy to understand terminology.

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9 hours ago, SemmickPhoto said:

Why is everyone talking about getting paid a commission? You get paid a royalty, the agency takes the commission. Think about it, you get 12% royalty and the agencies take 88% commission. 

 

A royalty is an amount paid by a third party to an owner of a product or patent for the use of that product or patent. 

 

Commission is an amount earned in exchange for transacting a sale of a product or providing a service.

 

Stop saying you get a commission, it is factually incorrect.

 

Just to add to that. In relation to images people are saying sales or sold. We do not sell our images we LICENCE them. Please stop saying "sales or sold".

 

Allan

 

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13 minutes ago, Allan Bell said:

 

Just to add to that. In relation to images people are saying sales or sold. We do not sell our images we LICENCE them. Please stop saying "sales or sold".

 

Allan

 

 

 

Couldn't care less what word people use. I know what they mean. 

 

What bothers me is the ever increasing share that Alamy is grabbing from it.

 

I do get actual royalties from one educational publisher - every year I get a payment based on how many copies of the product they have sold. I receive a certain percentage of the retail price as my royalty. To me that is the most usual use of the word 'royalty' and hence 'royalty free' meaning that there is one up front fee and no ongoing payments - the image is free of any commitments to pay royalties.  

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Does anyone know how to remove your content as a contributor? We are not required to accept the "new contract" that was already abusive.
I have sent several emails to request the removal of my images, but I have only gotten vain responses ...

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12 hours ago, MDM said:

exclusive collections of images in the broader meaning of exclusive (only available here and of excellent quality)

 

Aesthetic "quality" is so subjective it's meaningless. By all means flag images "only available here" if that avoids confusion.

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6 minutes ago, hotbrightsky said:

 

Aesthetic "quality" is so subjective it's meaningless. By all means flag images "only available here" if that avoids confusion.

 

Is it just my posts that you pick for out-of-context or partial-context quotes? Your statement is highly debatable in any case. Aesthetic quality is subjective and difficult to define but it is far from meaningless. And I said excellent quality which is not the same as aesthetic at all as it would incorporate more objective elements in relation to image quality. Anyway this is straying way off topic. 

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37 minutes ago, Elba Cabrera said:

Does anyone know how to remove your content as a contributor? We are not required to accept the "new contract" that was already abusive.
I have sent several emails to request the removal of my images, but I have only gotten vain responses ...

 

What is their response in the email? My understanding is that those who are leaving Alamy will see their images disappear on the last day of the old contract.

 

Paulette

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11 hours ago, SemmickPhoto said:

Why is everyone talking about getting paid a commission? You get paid a royalty, the agency takes the commission. Think about it, you get 12% royalty and the agencies take 88% commission. 

 

A royalty is an amount paid by a third party to an owner of a product or patent for the use of that product or patent. 

 

Commission is an amount earned in exchange for transacting a sale of a product or providing a service.

 

Stop saying you get a commission, it is factually incorrect.

You seem to have joined Alamy just yesterday have no photos uploaded and are telling us how things are. Really? you may be about right on the terminology but not very helpful

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12 hours ago, SemmickPhoto said:

Why is everyone talking about getting paid a commission? You get paid a royalty, the agency takes the commission. Think about it, you get 12% royalty and the agencies take 88% commission. 

 

A royalty is an amount paid by a third party to an owner of a product or patent for the use of that product or patent. 

 

Commission is an amount earned in exchange for transacting a sale of a product or providing a service.

 

Stop saying you get a commission, it is factually incorrect.

 

please keep to the topic of this thread

you are welcome to your opinion- but no need to tell us what to stop doing

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, SemmickPhoto said:

Why is everyone talking about getting paid a commission? You get paid a royalty, the agency takes the commission. Think about it, you get 12% royalty and the agencies take 88% commission. 

 

A royalty is an amount paid by a third party to an owner of a product or patent for the use of that product or patent. 

 

Commission is an amount earned in exchange for transacting a sale of a product or providing a service.

 

Stop saying you get a commission, it is factually incorrect.

The ship sailed on that distinction a long time ago.

If "commission" is the wrong term then maybe tell Alamy which uses the term extensively,

https://www.alamy.com/terms/contributor.aspx#alamy_commission

but it seems to me that " providing a service" is exactly what Alamy does for us and "an amount earned in exchange for ........ providing a service" is exactly what Alamy deducts from our licence fees.

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16 hours ago, AlbertSnapper said:

You say that 17 million of the 260 million images that you have here are exclusive.

That's not a great amount in the grand scheme of things.

Keeping it at 50/50 would not only help us contributors who are exclusive with you, but also yourselves with much of the encyclopedic collection that simply isn't available anywhere else.

Why tempt us to put our images elsewhere which increases competition (and lower pricing) for us all ?

Good point.

 

Please reconsider the 50/50 split for those contributors who want to be exclusive.

 

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13 hours ago, SeaKevin said:

 

The images that I have on Alamy have never been available through any other agency. Over the years here, I have had one exclusive sale on Alamy. A customer wanted to ensure that nobody else could use the same image on the cover of a trade book. I have control over my library and I was able to guarantee that exclusivity within an hour of that request coming in to Alamy. In this case, exclusivity had substantial value.

 

To protect the part of my photography business that continues to grow, I do want to ensure that Alamy is not scaring customers I have nurtured. I don't understand how that request is a sign of cheating, nor do I understand how that position is unreasonable.

Exactly the same here ... Alamy please listen!

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2 hours ago, Elba Cabrera said:

Does anyone know how to remove your content as a contributor? We are not required to accept the "new contract" that was already abusive.
I have sent several emails to request the removal of my images, but I have only gotten vain responses ...

Did you ask for your images to be removed or for your account to be closed as you don’t accept the new contract?

If the former your images will stay on sale for 6 months and your account will still be open. 

If the latter then you should have had a reply saying your account will close on 30th June. Your images will then be removed immediately.

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4 hours ago, Allan Bell said:

 

Just to add to that. In relation to images people are saying sales or sold. We do not sell our images we LICENCE them. Please stop saying "sales or sold".

 

Allan

 

Allan, all of us old timers know they are licensed. I simply say “sold” because it’s easier/quicker to type! So you’ll just have to grit your teeth, my dear! 😁

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10 minutes ago, Thyrsis said:

Did you ask for your images to be removed or for your account to be closed as you don’t accept the new contract?

If the former your images will stay on sale for 6 months and your account will still be open. 

If the latter then you should have had a reply saying your account will close on 30th June. Your images will then be removed immediately.

Not immediately, apparently. Mine are still up after three days. This is what they wrote to me;

"Sorry to hear you want to leave us - we'll start the termination process and your account will be closed on the 30th June." 

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16 minutes ago, Betty LaRue said:

Allan, all of us old timers know they are licensed. I simply say “sold” because it’s easier/quicker to type! So you’ll just have to grit your teeth, my dear! 😁

 

 

and even Alamy refers to the report as "Sales History"    (plus I don't need to worry about the licence or license for noun, but always licensed for verb form) 

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11 minutes ago, KevinS said:

Not immediately, apparently. Mine are still up after three days. This is what they wrote to me;

"Sorry to hear you want to leave us - we'll start the termination process and your account will be closed on the 30th June." 

To clarify...when your account is closed on 30th June your images will be removed immediately.

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11 minutes ago, KevinS said:

Not immediately, apparently. Mine are still up after three days. This is what they wrote to me;

"Sorry to hear you want to leave us - we'll start the termination process and your account will be closed on the 30th June." 

as per the contract.  45 days notice, or in case of Contract change at contract change. 

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Just now, Thyrsis said:

To clarify...when your account is closed on 30th June your images will be removed immediately.

 

 

maybe not anymore, since there is no contract change on the 1st of July, so now the 45 days from request clause should apply

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2 hours ago, meanderingemu said:

 

 

maybe not anymore, since there is no contract change on the 1st of July, so now the 45 days from request clause should apply

It still says 1st July on the contributor dashboard.......

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2 minutes ago, Thyrsis said:

The notification of the new contract has gone from the home page! Have Alamy officially withdrawn it? 

 

It is still on my Dashboard.

 

Paulette

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4 minutes ago, Thyrsis said:

The notification of the new contract has gone from the home page! Have Alamy officially withdrawn it? 

 

yes, announced yesterday it was being redrafted, and we would get a new notice period when new text comes out. 

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I don't think it ever was on the home page.  Still on my Dashboard, still says July 1

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