JaniMarkus Hasa Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Editorial royalty-free. Finland, Book, print and/or e-book. $18.96 net. Mural graffiti on Suvilahti graffiti wall in Helsinki, Finland. Contemporary and very temporary art form, as they get painted over in days. One of my favorite shooting locations, especially when I lived closer. Alamy doesn't seem to mind selling these unlike images of Mission murals (SF) that have been mostly deleted. Just like a good boy should, I left the Exclusive to Alamy -box unticked as this is someone else's work of art. Edited March 17, 2021 by JaniMarkus Hasa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colblimp Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, JaniMarkus Hasa said: Just like a good boy should, I left the Exclusive to Alamy -box unticked as this is someone else's work of art. You’ve completely misunderstood the ‘Exclusive to Alamy’ box. As Paul says, that box is only relevant if the picture is for sale at another stock agency. One final thing, please stop posting the exact price you get for each sale. This forum isn’t private so buyers could have a look and see how much pics sell for and try and use those figures to negotiate cheaper prices for themselves. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaniMarkus Hasa said: Alamy doesn't seem to mind selling these unlike images of Mission murals (SF) that have been mostly deleted. Just like a good boy should, I left the Exclusive to Alamy -box unticked as this is someone else's work of art. https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/10925-commission-change-announced-in-email/?do=findComment&comment=198641 Quote from Alamy: "Images of artwork Images of artwork in context can be marked as exclusive. The general rule of thumb is that the artwork can’t take up any more than 1/3 of the image frame." As the artwork takes up more than 1/3 of the image frame, presumably not to be marked exclusive. Also, ditto Andy's comments, not a fan of giving exact prices... Edited March 17, 2021 by Steve F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Colblimp said: You’ve completely misunderstood the ‘Exclusive to Alamy’ box. As Paul says, that box is only relevant if the picture is for sale at another stock agency. Unfortunately, he hasn't. There has been many discussions about it on this forum. Quote from Alamy: "If your collection contains images of artworks these can never be marked as Exclusive to Alamy, unless you're the artist." Do a search on the Forum but this statement was extracted from this post I could be wrong, but the conclusion of all the discussions was that a pic of a 3D artwork could be exclusive not not a 2D unless it occupies less than 1/3rd of the image. Edited March 17, 2021 by gvallee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, PAL Media said: Surely you would untick this box only if you had this image for sale elsewhere!!!??? (another stock agency) Not so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaniMarkus Hasa Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Colblimp said: You’ve completely misunderstood the ‘Exclusive to Alamy’ box. As Paul says, that box is only relevant if the picture is for sale at another stock agency. "If your collection contains images of artworks these can never be marked as Exclusive to Alamy, unless you're the artist." -The importance of being accurate with marking images as "Exclusive to Alamy" Edit: Just to make sure; I did not give the red arrow to Colblimp. Not my way of communicating. Edited March 17, 2021 by JaniMarkus Hasa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahavi Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 With this $$$ sale the revenue of 2021 equals the whole revenue of 2020. This is my 3rd year here. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, PAL Media said: Utterly bizarre Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaniMarkus Hasa Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, PAL Media said: Utterly bizarre I agree. I get it in the sense that it really isn't my piece of art, but what I don't get is why Alamy should get 60 % instead of 50 %. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, gvallee said: Totally agree. I'm assuming that the assumption on Alamy's part is that if you have taken a picture of an artwork without showing any context, there is a high likelihood that almost identical images of the artwork are likely to exist elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Steve F said: I'm assuming that the assumption on Alamy's part is that if you have taken a picture of an artwork without showing any context, there is a high likelihood that almost identical images of the artwork are likely to exist elsewhere. Some here do not accept this definition of "exclusive" and do not apply it to their submissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, JaniMarkus Hasa said: I agree. I get it in the sense that it really isn't my piece of art, but what I don't get is why Alamy should get 60 % instead of 50 %. Because your image cannot be exclusive if identical images exist elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaniMarkus Hasa Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, spacecadet said: Some here do not accept this definition of "exclusive" and do not apply it to their submissions. Yeah, I've noticed that. It makes one feel like a fool to obey rules that other's aren't. Hence the "good boy" part in my original message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaniMarkus Hasa Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Steve F said: Because your image cannot be exclusive if identical images exist elsewhere. That may be the case with Mona Lisa, but it really doesn't apply to (most of the) street art which is very temporary art form by nature. Also, stocks are full of nearly identical images of famous buildings, street views and sculptures. So, that may be the reasoning behind this rule, but it is not very logical or coherent. Anyways, my image was bought and I'm pretty sure it was the only one available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gaffen Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 View of St Mary Woolnoth, the Hawksmoor designed parish church, at the corner of Lombard Street and King William Street, London EditorialMedia: Magazine - print, digital and electronicPrint run: up to 150,000Placement: InsideImage Size: Spot sizeStart: 16 March 2021End: 16 March 2026Print run: 175,000; Quarterly; Territory: UK plus Up to 10% distributed overseas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colblimp Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) To be perfectly honest, I don't care if I receive red arrows any more, it's just a red arrow and means nothing in the greater scheme of things. Anyway, back on topic, an Upday sale just dropped in - 2F03W67. Edited March 17, 2021 by Colblimp Added Image ID 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Colblimp said: To be perfectly honest, I don't care if I receive red arrows any more, it's just a red arrow and means nothing in the greater scheme of things. It wasn't from me Andy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colblimp Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, gvallee said: It wasn't from me Andy. I never thought it was, Gen. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxzoomy Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, JaniMarkus Hasa said: "If your collection contains images of artworks these can never be marked as Exclusive to Alamy, unless you're the artist." -The importance of being accurate with marking images as "Exclusive to Alamy" Edit: Just to make sure; I did not give the red arrow to Colblimp. Not my way of communicating. Do we think, or does Alamy think, that street/wall graffiti is an artwork? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Editorial, Online Learning, Editorial Wesbite/Video, for $ The Holy Transfiguration of our Lord Russian Orthodox Church and graveyard in Ninilchik, Kenai Peninsula, Alaska, USA Paulette 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, zxzoomy said: Do we think, or does Alamy think, that street/wall graffiti is an artwork? Don't forget murals, that's also a sensitive keyword in Alamy terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 One of a couple of tiny $ distro web editorials Country: Worldwide ; Usage: Editorial ; Media: Editorial website ; Industry Sector: General business services ; Start: 01-February-2021 ; End: 01-February-2026 ; Additional Details: Czech Republic, Editorial website; Bulk discount, flat rate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Cape Fear Memorial Bridge high$$ Worldwide Educational - Upgrade. Upgrade? Again not complaining. 😁 wim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, zxzoomy said: Do we think, or does Alamy think, that street/wall graffiti is an artwork? Well, it is in law, if that helps. There's no doubt of that- the bar for originality is very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Colblimp said: You’ve completely misunderstood the ‘Exclusive to Alamy’ box. As Paul says, that box is only relevant if the picture is for sale at another stock agency. No, it also applies to 2 dimensional "artworks" if seen as a straight copy. I had long and involved negotiations with Alamy about images of postage stamps. Nothing to do with copyright issues but they apparently count as "artworks" and cannot be sold as exclusive. Edited March 17, 2021 by Phil Robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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