DACS - Part I Claim - web use

[geogphotos 2,770]

This from DACS today:

 

"You can claim for UK web use on Part 1 of your claim only. You will need to know the URL of the website in order to add it to your Part 1 Publication History list."

 

 

I have asked for clarification if this means a stand-alone UK website not linked to a book/magazine, also whether newspaper websites are to be included.

 

I have over 70,000 images on Alamy, each of them has a website - so puzzled about what DACS means here.

 

Part 1 opens next Monday. For books and mags the system needs to find matches, is this the same for websites?

Edited January 12 by geogphotos

[geogphotos 2,770]

From DACS site: 

 

In Part 1 you need to provide us with the ISBNs (international standard book number), ISSNs (international standard serial number) or website URLs for each of the publications your work has been featured in.

You are paid when the data you provide matches the lists of titles held by the Copyright Licensing Agency (CLA).

We encourage everyone to complete Part 1 as an increasing share of Payback royalties come from the matched data from the CLA. By completing Part 1, you’re maximising your chances of receiving more royalties.

[losdemas 2,817]

6 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

or website URLs for each of the publications your work has been featured in.

 

So this seems to be confirmation that they are offering an option for those who are unable to provide ISBNs/ISSNs, but do have links to online content which can help establish how/where/by whom the images have been used in books/magazines. Not for the actual web use itself.

Edited January 12 by losdemas

[spacecadet 3,781]

33 minutes ago, losdemas said:

 

So this seems to be confirmation that they are offering an option for those who are unable to provide ISBNs/ISSNs, but do have links to online content which can help establish how/where/by whom the images have been used in books/magazines. Not for the actual web use itself.

Well, probably, but I'm still confused.

I'm sure geog will share DACS' reply.

Must leave off the emojisbut not yet, apparently.

Edited January 12 by spacecadet

[losdemas 2,817]

2 hours ago, spacecadet said:

Well, probably, but I'm still confused.

I'm sure geog will share DACS' reply.

Must leave off the emojisbut not yet, apparently.

 

: )

I agree that it could be clearer.

Maybe change to GIFs? 🤣

[geogphotos 2,770]

 

 

Sorry that the writing is small. Still mysterious. No doubt it will be clearer next Monday when DACS Part 1 opens.

Edited Wednesday at 18:53 by geogphotos

[losdemas 2,817]

 

8 hours ago, geogphotos said:

 

 

Sorry that the writing is small. Still mysterious. No doubt it will be clearer next Monday when DACS Part 1 opens.

 

Curiouser and curiouser.

[Foreign Export 294]

think I will revert back to asking Alamy to manage all of this for me - just seems a lot easier even if it costs me

[David Pimborough 204]

16 minutes ago, Foreign Export said:

think I will revert back to asking Alamy to manage all of this for me - just seems a lot easier even if it costs me

 

Even if it costs you 50% of your DACs royalties?

 

I keep a rolling year on year spreadsheet of found books/magazines and add new ones as I find find them.

 

That way it only takes an hour or two to update the DACs claim.

 

You should also bear in mind that image sales from other agencies can't be claimed for by Alamy so if you

do sell images elsewhere i.e. other agencies/commisioned work Alamy can't claim for those so you lose out.

[David Pimborough 204]

On 12/01/2021 at 15:40, geogphotos said:

From DACS site: 

 

In Part 1 you need to provide us with the ISBNs (international standard book number), ISSNs (international standard serial number) or website URLs for each of the publications your work has been featured in.

You are paid when the data you provide matches the lists of titles held by the Copyright Licensing Agency (CLA).

We encourage everyone to complete Part 1 as an increasing share of Payback royalties come from the matched data from the CLA. By completing Part 1, you’re maximising your chances of receiving more royalties.

 

 

I had a similar problem and DACs advided that they would take a URL web link to a magazine/book if the ISBN/ISSN wasn't able to be found.

 

 

 

 

[geogphotos 2,770]

2 hours ago, David Pimborough said:

 

 

I had a similar problem and DACs advided that they would take a URL web link to a magazine/book if the ISBN/ISSN wasn't able to be found.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I expect that is what this is. I had a magazine web use and couldn't find the bar code of the particular issue. So I used the generic ISSN number for that magazine. 

 

We will see on Monday but I do wonder how they will convert an URL to a matched use of a book or magazine. Do they have some form of automated system for allowable web uses linked to books and mags published in UK???

[spacecadet 3,781]

53 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

bar code of the particular issue

I'm pretty sure that the ISSN stays the same across issues. When you type them into the DACS validator it works anyway.

Edited Thursday at 10:15 by spacecadet

[geogphotos 2,770]

8 minutes ago, spacecadet said:

I'm pretty sure that the ISSN stays the same across issues. When you type them into the DACS validator it works anyway.

 

Yes indeed, so not sure why a web URL would be any more helpful.