gvallee 3,228 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 On 27/11/2020 at 21:01, Ed Rooney said: On most subjects, I don't snap many frames. I've never considered culling an issue. To give you an example Edo of what I just shot and my future culling nightmare. I am camped at the seaside, the tide is ebbing, sand bars are appearing, someone is silhouetted catching pippies and carrying a bucket, pelicans are hanging around. I am trying to get the perfect combination of all actors: 5 shots. There will be only 1 keeper. A pair of dolphins appeared, interacting with each other, coming to me and looking at me. Some close-up shots, some including the mangrove habitat in the background: 147 shots. Keepers? A handful. The scenic fish and chips restaurant with a terrace above water in the marina has a sky background of ever changing interesting cloud formations complementing its painted blue colour: a series of shots, including/excluding yachts, palmtrees, clouds. As the tide keeps ebbing, a family arrives with a bright inflatable boat for the kids. Dog/kids, I'm on duty for incorporating people in my portfolio. Endless combinations. Plus pelicans and a very scenic background of forest and mangrove along a sandy beach. You get my drift. And we haven't got to sunset yet. Sand patterns with evening light, sky, clouds, silhouettes, possibilities are endless. Just this past hour of shooting will take me a long time to edit from beginning to end. And it's not the keywords that will be a problem, it's all covered in my templates. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Rooney 3,595 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 Wow, what a photo-filled exotic place! 🙂 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Colblimp 2,076 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, gvallee said: To give you an example Edo of what I just shot and my future culling nightmare. I am camped at the seaside, the tide is ebbing, sand bars are appearing, someone is silhouetted catching pippies and carrying a bucket, pelicans are hanging around. I am trying to get the perfect combination of all actors: 5 shots. There will be only 1 keeper. A pair of dolphins appeared, interacting with each other, coming to me and looking at me. Some close-up shots, some including the mangrove habitat in the background: 147 shots. Keepers? A handful. The scenic fish and chips restaurant with a terrace above water in the marina has a sky background of ever changing interesting cloud formations complementing its painted blue colour: a series of shots, including/excluding yachts, palmtrees, clouds. As the tide keeps ebbing, a family arrives with a bright inflatable boat for the kids. Dog/kids, I'm on duty for incorporating people in my portfolio. Endless combinations. Plus pelicans and a very scenic background of forest and mangrove along a sandy beach. You get my drift. And we haven't got to sunset yet. Sand patterns with evening light, sky, clouds, silhouettes, possibilities are endless. Just this past hour of shooting will take me a long time to edit from beginning to end. And it's not the keywords that will be a problem, it's all covered in my templates. All of those shots could be news pics, but culling, a quick edit, headlines and captions would have to be done as quickly as possible. As a press photographer I’ve learnt to only take a handful of pics so I’ve less to go through when selecting which to send. Do news! Link to post Share on other sites
gvallee 3,228 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 44 minutes ago, Colblimp said: All of those shots could be news pics, but culling, a quick edit, headlines and captions would have to be done as quickly as possible. As a press photographer I’ve learnt to only take a handful of pics so I’ve less to go through when selecting which to send. Do news! Thank you for your wise guidance. As most other contributors, I've been kicked out of live news. If I lived in a static place, I might be interested in giving it another go but being permanently on the road, it would be quite a challenge. As an example, tonight the Internet signal is 2 bars out of 4. And we are on an unpowered site. Not a complete no-no with solar but it gives you an idea. Also the Australian market is very small. I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Rooney 3,595 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 Yeah, most of us have been producing news-worthy snaps in the lockdowns. say laa V 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gvallee 3,228 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: Yeah, most of us have been producing news-worthy snaps in the lockdowns. say laa V You're fluent in French Edo! I first wondered if you had trouble typing with one hand but then got it. LOL!! Link to post Share on other sites
Colblimp 2,076 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, gvallee said: Thank you for your wise guidance. As most other contributors, I've been kicked out of live news. If I lived in a static place, I might be interested in giving it another go but being permanently on the road, it would be quite a challenge. As an example, tonight the Internet signal is 2 bars out of 4. And we are on an unpowered site. Not a complete no-no with solar but it gives you an idea. Also the Australian market is very small. I could be wrong. Ah, OK, makes sense, although worth an email to Alamy to see if you can get access? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PAL Media 100 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, gvallee said: Thank you for your wise guidance. As most other contributors, I've been kicked out of live news. If I lived in a static place, I might be interested in giving it another go but being permanently on the road, it would be quite a challenge. As an example, tonight the Internet signal is 2 bars out of 4. And we are on an unpowered site. Not a complete no-no with solar but it gives you an idea. Also the Australian market is very small. I could be wrong. Weather related live news (Specially dramatic) has a worldwide audience. I think you are in an ideal position to do news. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gvallee 3,228 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, PAL Media said: Weather related live news (Specially dramatic) has a worldwide audience. I think you are in an ideal position to do news. I'm enjoying my retirement and being a Grey Nomad! LOL!! No hassles, no deadlines, no stress, just endless holidays and travel. Bliss!! Seriously, you are right. There is currently a huge fire on a nearby World-Heritage island which has been going on for several weeks. Quite a bit of smoke has drifted to the mainland. This would be news. I was actually in town yesterday where it was quite choking, my eyes were smarting. Then I saw a guy appearing to measure smoke levels in town centre with some weird instruments. I put my editorial cap on and took a shot. Then went to him and asked him what he was doing. He was measuring a big tree for the Council to put Xmas lights in it... I hit the delete button. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Rooney 3,595 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, gvallee said: You're fluent in French Edo! I first wondered if you had trouble typing with one hand but then got it. LOL!! oh yeah I parel eh voo pretty good. in a bakery, for example, I'm semi-fluent. I point at bun of some kind and say the name . . . but usually in Italian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
meanderingemu 1,106 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Ed Rooney said: Yeah, most of us have been producing news-worthy snaps in the lockdowns. say laa V "it is washed" ? (c'est la-vé) 😁 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
spacecadet 3,776 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, gvallee said: the Australian market is very small. Well, I took seven photographs airside at Sydney waiting for a connection to LHR. Two went to Alamy and one licensed within weeks. This was the second time I had set foot in Australia. The first time was on the way out. I have still only spent about 12 hours there. I wasn't quite so restrained in New Zealand but even so I only took 1500 in three weeks. About 28% keepers. Nearly 200 in Napier, though. I did go a bit mad there. Edited December 4, 2020 by spacecadet 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Steve F 750 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 10:14, Ed Rooney said: Digital stock is a far more complex and labor intensive pursuit than what I did back in the film era for Tony Stone and others. Now with digital, there's planning which subjects to capture, the shoot itself, image editing, and tagging the snaps. Which one of these chores is the most difficult and time consuming for you. Stay safe, Edo I'm fine with the photography side of things, preparing for a shot, getting the lighting right, shooting and reshooting till I like the composition etc. It's the keywording that sucks, and especially at the moment, going back a few years to my first photos and realising the keywording was pretty bad and redoing those. So re-keywording is the worst for me! Steve Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Rooney 3,595 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, meanderingemu said: "it is washed" ? (c'est la-vé) 😁 c'est la ve? no no, that doesn't look right. it looks . . . foreign. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Allan Bell 2,402 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Ed Rooney said: c'est la ve? no no, that doesn't look right. it looks . . . foreign. Bon. Allan 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Rooney 3,595 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 No, Allan, that's bone. in my case the humerus. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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