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Sony RX100 VA or Sony RX100 VII?

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2 hours ago, Sally R said:

 

However, I've decided to wait for a bit to think it through more, rather than rushing into deciding. It will probably be better to do so too when I have a bit more money. I do really love the idea of this little camera and can see myself getting one sometime in the next 6 months.

 

Personally I think that's a wise move. In the past I sometimes regretted impulsive purchases.

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I have the RX100-3 and it’s only 70mm at the long end. I use it like you say you want to. I use my Fuji XT-2 with a variety of lenses from very wide to 400 mm. 
But the Sony in my purse or pocket is the one I’ve taken run-across shots of construction zones, new house builds, inside Walmart and a grocery, and a shoe store. I had it on a Caribbean trip and got beautiful beach pictures with it. When going into the island shops, I didn’t want to carry anything heavier than the Sony, (shopping is exhausting enough) and I had fun taking pictures with it. If it were the only camera I ever shot with, then I’d go Edo’s way. But it’s not. It’s my secondary camera.
Edo said he thought my model was slow-focusing sometimes.  I haven’t found that with my copy, at least not so I’ve noticed, so all is good.
I will say that there has been a handful or two times that I wished for more reach with it, but not often enough to get one of the longer zooms. I prefer the fastness over the reach for those indoor shots. As it is, I have to use creative noise reduction unless by a bright window.  Fastness or reach is an individual choice.

It basically comes down to buying the tool you actually need for the job.
Betty

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1 hour ago, Betty LaRue said:

I have the RX100-3 and it’s only 70mm at the long end. I use it like you say you want to. I use my Fuji XT-2 with a variety of lenses from very wide to 400 mm. 
But the Sony in my purse or pocket is the one I’ve taken run-across shots of construction zones, new house builds, inside Walmart and a grocery, and a shoe store. I had it on a Caribbean trip and got beautiful beach pictures with it. When going into the island shops, I didn’t want to carry anything heavier than the Sony, (shopping is exhausting enough) and I had fun taking pictures with it. If it were the only camera I ever shot with, then I’d go Edo’s way. But it’s not. It’s my secondary camera.
Edo said he thought my model was slow-focusing sometimes.  I haven’t found that with my copy, at least not so I’ve noticed, so all is good.
I will say that there has been a handful or two times that I wished for more reach with it, but not often enough to get one of the longer zooms. I prefer the fastness over the reach for those indoor shots. As it is, I have to use creative noise reduction unless by a bright window.  Fastness or reach is an individual choice.

It basically comes down to buying the tool you actually need for the job.
Betty

 

Many thanks Betty. That's very helpful. It would be my secondary camera as well, so in that regard it doesn't have to be able to do everything. It does seem like a fun camera too. We have some good cycle paths around the river and along the ocean here, and I love the idea of having something small and easy like this that's easy to carry should I see something interesting. I already have lenses specialised for different things with my DSLR, but feel the Sony would be an ultra-portable addition that would fill the gap of doing photography when a DSLR is not convenient. I imagine it will do well outdoors, but that as you point out, noise can be a problem in less bright surroundings so I will need to deal with that in post-processing. I will keep thinking about the fastness vs reach issue, and which choice will suit best what I'd like to do with the camera.

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Betty, I recall you saying that you mostly had your RX100-3 set on Full Auto. I use Full Auto a lot now, but did not with the 100-3. Maybe you've seen the other post where I'm bitching about a difference in speed and accuracy between the A setting and Full Auto? As I told Wim, this could a figment of my imagination. I agree that the less expensive 100-3 might be a good answer for Sally, since it will function as a second (pocket) camera. 

 

I also have a Sony 24MP a6000 with the 10-18, 28-70, and a 50 prime. 

 

Edo

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On 29/06/2020 at 03:24, Ed Rooney said:

Betty, I recall you saying that you mostly had your RX100-3 set on Full Auto. I use Full Auto a lot now, but did not with the 100-3. Maybe you've seen the other post where I'm bitching about a difference in speed and accuracy between the A setting and Full Auto? As I told Wim, this could a figment of my imagination. I agree that the less expensive 100-3 might be a good answer for Sally, since it will function as a second (pocket) camera. 

 

I also have a Sony 24MP a6000 with the 10-18, 28-70, and a 50 prime. 

 

Edo

Your memory is perfecto, Edo. I do use it on auto exclusively. That probably is the difference. So far the temptation to upgrade has been pretty minuscule. The first, original plain 100 had a reach of 100mm. I preferred that, but the finder, which I felt more important prodded me to upgrade. 
The nice thing is the original took great pics, too, but I’ve never liked using the LCD, just like you. If they’d make one like the original reach but with the finder, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Betty

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Yeah, the first RX100 went to 100mm. But the wide end was 28mm, not 24mm. I've never liked the 28mm look. In the film era, I always use primes, and I see a big personality difference between 24 and 28.

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2 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

Yeah, the first RX100 went to 100mm. But the wide end was 28mm, not 24mm. I've never liked the 28mm look. In the film era, I always use primes, and I see a big personality difference between 24 and 28.

True. I seldom used the wide end of that lens, but did sometimes. Seems like I was making use of the zoom mostly between 50-100.

My Fuji 18-135, I have used 18 a lot. I’ve used that lens extensively for store fronts, and love to get a wide and a closeup without moving my feet. As we age, we have to conserve energy when we can. At least, I do. In large outdoor malls, I do a lot of walking from one end to the other, but would prefer not to be walking to and fro also. Especially in bitter cold and heat from hell.

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I'm still using the RX100 for day to day in your pocket type stuff and am consistently pleased with results. The new Sony RX range is a lot more expensive than the original. Is the bang worth the buck?

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On 27/06/2020 at 10:09, Sally R said:

 

Thanks Michael, yes that is a helpful article. I think stills will be mainly my thing, so the VA seems the best option for me.

Thanks Sally. That article and link were very useful! You have helped me answer my own question! The benefits of the newer model don't seem worth the x 2 ++ increase in cost.

https://photographylife.com/sony-rx100-series-comparison

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6 hours ago, Jansos said:

Thanks Sally. That article and link were very useful! You have helped me answer my own question! The benefits of the newer model don't seem worth the x 2 ++ increase in cost.

https://photographylife.com/sony-rx100-series-comparison

 

No worries Jansos. I'm glad the article Michael sent is helpful, along with me weighing up the pros and cons 🤔. I'm leaning towards one of the older models at the moment now. I'll also wait to see when they are on sale again. It's great to hear that you are pleased with the results of the RX100 as a day to day pocket camera 🙂

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On 03/07/2020 at 02:17, Jansos said:

I'm still using the RX100 for day to day in your pocket type stuff and am consistently pleased with results. The new Sony RX range is a lot more expensive than the original. Is the bang worth the buck?

I was pleased with the results, also. The only thing that led me to the 3 was the pop up finder, which I prefer. But I had to give up some reach. If you are comfortable using the LCD to frame, you’re golden.

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