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I hope when this nightmare is finished Priti Patel and Matt Hancock will publicly thanks to all foreigner, including EU, personnel in the NHS and care service. Obviously the nationals as well.

Yesterday in Spain during minutes at night all country, similar what Italians did days ago, clapping from the balconies thanking the stressful job that those professional are doing right now.

 

About the topic subject as every big crisis this will affect to us as it has happened in the past. Lower prices and less licenses. It will take another five years to recover.

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50 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

What about travel plans to take photos - ie) tourist hot spots that are usually overcrowded, also photographing the impacts of the pandemic?

 

What opportunities are there? Bargains possibly? 

 

I've been thinking this morning of UK destinations so as to avoid any 'lockdown' overseas - staying with a day or two journey from home, going by car

 

Opportunities to photograph a phenomena which could be unique because even if the virus never disappears I can't imagine that the situation will ever be the same as now.

 

Exactly! 

Lots of picture opportunities that don't need you to go into a crowd or the like.

Lots of countryside to look at...

 

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20 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said:

"The British Public has had enough of experts". Not me, Michael Gove in June 2016 to counter a request to name any economists that thought Brxxit would be a good idea. Now the same team are keen to put the advice of their 'experts' to the fore.  Yesterday the death toll in the UK almost doubled from 11 to 21 and as a response to this news the government are proposing to ask the likes of JCB and Rolls Royce to investigate the feasibility of manufacturing ventilators. Now I'm just an armchair expert but I knew 6 weeks ago that the lack of ventilators was going to be a limiting factor when saving the lives of the vulnerable and that we had a low per capita availability of them compared to other countries, Italy for example, not to mention the nurses that need to be sourced and trained to look after those patients. Maybe, just maybe, JCB and Rolls Royce could have been approached 6 weeks ago, where was the expert advice then.

 

The answer is simple: ££££££££££££.

 

And the £ has dropped like a stone this week against the €. 

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7 minutes ago, MDM said:

And the £ has dropped like a stone this week against the €. 

It gets worse, I just heard a boffin on the radio saying that in fact they were just assembling a list of companies that could be asked. Talk about forward planning.

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What about this UK news

 

"In the coming weeks, over 70’s will be asked to self-isolate for up to four months, in order to protect them from the virus"

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9 hours ago, MDM said:

 

 

Turkeys voting for Christmas comes to mind as well as closing stable doors.The government approach appears to be one of just leaving the doors open.  I guess you are free of underlying illnesses and fully expect to be fine or happy to sacrifice for the good of the herd. Praying Marxists. Sure you don’t mean praying mantises? Makes about as much sense. 

 

 

 

 

 

You seem to be making this personal and making assumptions.

If that's the case can we assume that your income is protected during a prolonged lockdown period. 

Can we also assume that the reason you are so keen to close schools and colleges is because your wife is a teacher, which is understandable but hardly an unbiased oppinion.

 

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7 hours ago, dustydingo said:

 

I cannot for the life of me understand the argument that the UK's position, contrary to its own medical and scientific advice, is correct . . . and indeed, it has been noted that the UK approach is beginning to change to become more in line with that medical and scientific advice.

 

I'm amazed at the ease some are willing to throw under the bus the medically compromised, the elderly, those undertaking radiation therapy, those on chemo, those with any of the many forms of dementia that weaken one physically. Truly, mind-numbingly astounding. The number of folk who do not yet realise that restrictions as recommended by the epidemiologists are not to protect any one individual (you or me), they are to decrease the risk (a different thing) to any one individual and to slow down the infection-rate, while at the same time preventing health resources from being overwhelmed, which would force said health resources to begin "picking winners" by turning away from those being treated for cancer, those over a certain age, those recovering from a different serious disease. And if you slow it down enough to say . . . ummm, oh I don't know . . . maybe until there is a vaccine, then it is not beyond the imagination of even the most selfish that thousands if not millions may be saved from . . . well, from dying.

 

So I'm willing to do what I can, withing the advice from experts I rely on to speak up over the noise of all the crap pseudo-scientific "information" and non-science-based opinion, to reduce my own and my family's risk PLUS contribute to the efforts of my community to be hopefully be able to provide necessary health care for everbody, not just those most likely to survive.

 

DD

 

 

 

This is ignoring the fact that the government ARE following scientific advice. 

This will obviously change as time progresses.

 

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1 hour ago, sooth said:

Let's remember to distinguish between Chinese and Chinese government.  Referring to Chinese as a whole leads to prejudice and racism because your normal average people cannot distinguish between the two. Right now there has been increased tension, harassment, xenophobia, and  racist attacks against Asians all over the world blaming anybody of asian decent on this pandemic.  I myself have been on heightened alert.

 

THANK YOU.

 

I agree and didn't mean to infer all Chinese are to blame and apologise if I gave that impression. However it's not the Chinese government that trade in these 'wet markets'.

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Just seen a set of pictures of very quiet central London scenes, photographed on Friday.

They very much looked as tho they were taken in the early morning light (with long shadows), before the morning rush hour. Few people around.

 

I was in London yesterday for a big chunk of the day, and it was its usual choc-a-bloc with traffic congestion, people everywhere, people in pubs and cafes etc etc.

(I went from south London, on to the Woolwich Ferry, to Whitechapel and Hackney/Shoreditch areas, where I spent 4 hours, then drove down Euston Road to escape to my home 110 miles away.

 

I think I am more afraid of the media than the virus.

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This article is very critical of the US government response: 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-us-testing-donald-trump

 

Coronavirus: Trump's stumbles and testing failures pave way to disaster, experts say

Efforts to avoid panic backfired, says surgeon as country braces for wave of infections without coherent government response

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24 minutes ago, BobD said:

 

You seem to be making this personal and making assumptions.

If that's the case can we assume that your income is protected during a prolonged lockdown period. 

Can we also assume that the reason you are so keen to close schools and colleges is because your wife is a teacher, which is understandable but hardly an unbiased oppinion.

 

 

Actually my main income is from wedding photography and  I stand to lose rather than gain from a general shutdown. I haven't had any postponements or cancellations yet but I have no doubt that will happen soon. 

 

Schools are only one part of the equation but yes of course I would rather my wife was not going to a mass gathering of over 1000 people every day, given the exponential increase in infections and the fact that so many are asymptomatic or displaying only mild symptoms. However, my opinion is primarily derived from what the WHO and the rest of world is doing in taking steps to delay the inevitable. 

 

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8 minutes ago, MDM said:

 

Actually my main income is from wedding photography and  I stand to lose rather than gain from a general shutdown. I haven't had any postponements or cancellations yet but I have no doubt that will happen soon. 

 

Schools are only one part of the equation but yes of course I would rather my wife was not going to a mass gathering of over 1000 people every day, given the exponential increase in infections and the fact that so many are asymptomatic or displaying only mild symptoms. However, my opinion is primarily derived from what the WHO and the rest of world is doing in taking steps to delay the inevitable. 

 

 

The point is if we do go into a lockdown as other countries have, one would assume that weddings along with funerals would be banned in which case your income would stop from day one.

Maybe you could afford that but there are millions out there that would be in sever financial trouble.

By the way I am retired and my income would not be be affected in any circumstance.

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41 minutes ago, BobD said:

 

This is ignoring the fact that the government ARE following scientific advice. 

This will obviously change as time progresses.

 

 

AKA back-pedalling madly from their initial "plan". I rest my case.

 

DD

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8 hours ago, dustydingo said:

 

To rephrase . . . as soon as restrictions are lifted, more people die (that is, people who wouldn't have died will die) . . . so . . . while we're waiting for a vaccine, let's remove restrictions so those people who wouldn't have died do in fact die vs let's try as much as we can to restrict its spread so those who won't die don't die . . . hmmm . . . tough decision?

 

DD

 

Please don't put words in my mouth. This is not what I said or meant, it is wrong of you to assume otherwise.

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1 minute ago, dustydingo said:

 

AKA back-pedalling madly from their initial "plan". I rest my case.

 

DD

 

No, a common sense approach rather that absolute panic.

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12 minutes ago, BobD said:

Maybe you could afford that but there are millions out there that would be in sever financial trouble.

It'll be a struggle for many to overcome financially sure, but when you dead, you dead.

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11 hours ago, BobD said:

 

It's unbelievable the hysteria that is going on. If every country completely isolates you will see a collapse of the entire worlds economy and if anyone thinks the virus is bad then god forbid that happens.

Look at Italy. The north of the country has been in lockdown for a couple of weeks and the whole country for nearly a week, yet today they have had 3500 new cases and a 175 new deaths, so what good has the lockdown done?

We as individuals have to take responsibility for ourselves, our families and community to delay the spread of the disease as much as possible, don't expect your government to do the impossible under extreme circumstances. 

I notice today that Japan, which seemed to have had it under control has had 70 new cases, which shows that virus is in the world community and will reappear as soon as there is a slight let up in precautions.

All the countries that have gone into lockdown will see it reappear as soon as restrictions are lifted.

I think the Marxists and anarchists believe it is an answer to their prayers to see the collapse of the worlds economy,  it's up to the more sane amongst us to carry on as best we can.

 

  

You're spreading fake info about an important matter  on a public forum.. There is no scientific evidence that the virus will reappear.

Au contraire,  it is a fact that lockdown has worked in China and it is working in Italy (ZERO new cases in the town where it all started and was first locked down).

 

And for your info (but it seems you are not that familiar with the word "information"), the countries that most helped Italy are China, Cuba and Venezuela.

 

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4 minutes ago, BobD said:

 

The point is if we do go into a lockdown as other countries have, one would assume that weddings along with funerals would be banned in which case your income would stop from day one.

Maybe you could afford that but there are millions out there that would be in sever financial trouble.

By the way I am retired and my income would not be be affected in any circumstance.

 

These are extraordinary times and extraordinary measures will be required so it will be the government's responsibilty to look after its citizens in such times, especially those who are unable to do so because they can't afford to. If this sounds too socialist then wait and see what happens if they don't - dare we say anarchy. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, JaniMarkus Hasa said:

Here's my two € cents. 

 

I think cancelling concerts and sports events is a good idea. Working from home, if possible, is a good idea. Having some amount of canned food and toilet paper at home is a good idea.

 

However, I don't think travel restrictions and locked up borders between countries in the same position will do any good. My trip to NYC next Thursday was cancelled. We have 225 conformed cases in Finland, so I don't think I would have been a big threat to U.S. health care system. Personally I'm OK with that, though I may not get back money from the hotel booking. If I happen to get sick, I rather do it here than 6600 km from home.    

 

However my wife's niece, who is studying on athletic scholarship in Michigan just got the news that the campus and the dorms will be closed. She has nowhere to go and can't get back home, since there are no flights. That's pretty harsh situation for someone who's on her own for the first time.

 

I'm sorry to hear about your niece and hope people will step up here and help.

 

Your visit to "The City That Never Sleeps" would turn out to be very quiet for you. No theaters. No museums. Big movie theaters seem to be open but the Film Forum is closed. That's the only one where I am not freezing and putting in ear plugs to soften the over-amplified sound. What's with that? I did have lunch with a friend in a restaurant yesterday and it was mostly empty and nicely quiet so we could talk in low voices. Too much loud these days. We have 269 cases of the virus in New York City so more than in all of your country. You will be better off there.

 

I hope you will visit us in the future when we re-open and that you will have a good time here. Lots of wonderful things to do when all is well.

 

Paulette

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1 hour ago, BobD said:

 

No, a common sense approach rather that absolute panic.

 

Strawman! There is a world of nuance between the UK gov's "herd immunity" plan and your suddenly introduced "absolute panic". To my friends in the UK's relief, it appears BJ might just have had the penny drop that his government's initial plan needs urgent reassessment.

 

DD

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10 minutes ago, dustydingo said:

 

Strawman! There is a world of nuance between the UK gov's "herd immunity" plan and your suddenly introduced "absolute panic". To my friends in the UK's relief, it appears BJ might just have had the penny drop that his government's initial plan needs urgent reassessment.

 

DD

 

The world is full of strawmen spouting soundbites. Did he just realise that the (vast?) majority of Conservative Party members are elderly and represent the most vulnerable. The Guardian is now reporting that older people (>70) might be forceably quarantined for their own protection. That will do down well among the membership. It also ignores the fact that in British-Asian culture, elderly people often live in the same houses as the young in large extended families.

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1 minute ago, MDM said:

 

The world is full of strawmen spouting soundbites. Did he just realise that the (vast?) majority of Conservative Party members are elderly and represent the most vulnerable. The Guardian is now reporting that older people (>70) might be forceably quarantined for their own protection. That will do down well among the membership. It also ignores the fact that in British-Asian culture, elderly people often live in the same houses as the young in large extended families.

 

Imagine that in the US . . . certain politicians of some note in particular . . . :)

 

DD

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1 hour ago, dustydingo said:

 

Strawman! There is a world of nuance between the UK gov's "herd immunity" plan and your suddenly introduced "absolute panic". To my friends in the UK's relief, it appears BJ might just have had the penny drop that his government's initial plan needs urgent reassessment.

 

DD

 

 

 "Herd immunity is not our policy, it's not our goal, our goal is to protect life.

"Of course there is a scientific debate around scientific concepts but I want to be absolutely crystal clear, we will do what is necessary.

 

Quote from the UK Health minister this morning.

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3 hours ago, Mr Standfast said:

 

Exactly! 

Lots of picture opportunities that don't need you to go into a crowd or the like.

Lots of countryside to look at...

 

 

My view too. I have 3 nights away booked on the outskirts of a small English town for sightseeing/photography, and May Day related photography. I am dithering over cancelling or not. It's likely the May Day events will be cancelled, time will tell. To eat in the towns cafe's would worry me. I'm more likely to cancel, and perhaps travel down just for the day if the festivities aren't cancelled. Otherwise I'll take various day trips out by car, taking my own food and drink. 

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1 hour ago, MDM said:

 

The world is full of strawmen spouting soundbites. Did he just realise that the (vast?) majority of Conservative Party members are elderly and represent the most vulnerable. The Guardian is now reporting that older people (>70) might be forceably quarantined for their own protection. That will do down well among the membership. It also ignores the fact that in British-Asian culture, elderly people often live in the same houses as the young in large extended families.

 

Typical response of a socialist. Cant abide anyone with a different viewpoint to their own so resort to insults and trying to shout down anyone with different views.

I am not intimidated by your insults and will respect your point of view.

This shows why there cannot be any sensible debate anymore. 

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