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The thing that gets me with the whole "could be  DWP(DSS), private investigator, creepy stalker *insert nefarious possibility here*" crowd is that if someone is doing covert shots they are going to be using much less obvious gear.  For legal purposes, say an investigator for the DWP(DSS) or a private investigator gathering evidence, the image does not have to be pin sharp noiseless to the same degree as stock and totally acceptable images can be (and are) taken with pocket point and shoots or phones which many people are blind to being used now.
There seems to be a distinct lack of thought in the "Tackle the person with the really obvious gear who is the least likely to be doing something questionable" attitude.

 

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Of the 100 images on my port first page, 27 were taken in markets including some in the M&S Foodhall. 

 

Alas, the question remains: what level of privacy can a cauliflower expect?

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8 hours ago, Martin P Wilson said:

 

A little lemon juice is a good alternative to salt, achieves much the same seasoning result. I am sure it would combine well with fresh garlic.

 

I might try it...

 

Yes, I've heard that from others, and I do like lemon. It's tough to avoid salt these days, though. The food manufacturers put it (along with sugar) in just about everything. Restaurants are usually pretty liberal with the salt as well.

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7 hours ago, Bryan said:

The  cauliflowers have arrived !

 

Cauliflowers for sale in a market, England, UK Stock Photo

 

You're probably safe. Can't say that I recognize any of them, plus to my knowledge no one has ever been sued by a cauliflower. 😁

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11 hours ago, John Morrison said:

 

Yes, I have most of his books. I'm busy writing one myself, which a library or bookshop would put on the same shelf as God is not Great. Hitchens is my touchstone for lucidity and well-argued prose. We'll raise a glass in his memory...

 

Hopefully not alongside Dawkins, though. His dogmatic brand of atheism starts to sound a lot like a new religion.

 

P.S. Good luck with the book. Please let us know when it's available.

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Just got hassled for taking a photo from the sidewalk of a store in Harlem usa.  Was on a long streak of not getting hassled, today broke that streak.  This store "best market" was purchased by Lidl, and in a year or two may convert to lidl colors; they come out and tell me I can't take pics of the store, obviously now I have to waste my energy and tell them I'm on the sidewalk several times. Hoping this young man doesn't come out and violrntly confront me as I've had encounters like it in the past with people in this toxic NYC. Later got hassled elsewhere in Harlem.  I dont know, Harlem is gentrifying and taking pics of those new shops, if not getting hassled; or worried about getting killed on these streets where several random incidents of people getting stabbed in the neck and head this month, or getting peanuts for those photos by the likes of theculturetrip, I don't know if  it's worth it.

 

I did get one photo sold of a Lidl yesterday PU. 

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2 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

P.S. Good luck with the book. Please let us know when it's available.

 

Thanks... but it will be under a pseudonym. Touchy subject... 😟

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12 hours ago, Bryan said:

The  cauliflowers have arrived !

 

Cauliflowers for sale in a market, England, UK Stock Photo

Nice. They are actually quite nice when eaten raw and dipped in Mayonnaise

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4 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

 

Hopefully not alongside Dawkins, though. His dogmatic brand of atheism starts to sound a lot like a new religion.

 

 

A great alternative is The Dawkins Delusion? by Alister McGrath, DPhil, DD

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1 hour ago, Futterwithtrees said:

A great alternative is The Dawkins Delusion? by Alister McGrath, DPhil, DD

 

Thanks. I've heard about that book. However, I'm going to stick with cauliflowers. I have a feeling that they're wiser than we are... 😀

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1 hour ago, BobD said:

Is it me or are there 3 parallel threads running at the same time here? 

 

Only three?? We can do better than that. So, what do you reckon... Nikon or Canon??

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Incognito is the way to do it from the top of a tour bus. As long as the bus keeps running they can't catch you.

 

 

 

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I have shot photos in many markets around the world and the only places I have any problems have been in the Caribbean.  Once in St. Kitts, a man grabbed my then girlfriend's arm (she was taking photos of his stall at market) and would not let go until we paid him some money....I ended up giving what pocket change I had and he let go.  My GF was very rattled by the whole event...first time in the Caribbean, and wanted to go back home.  

 

On the island of Granada, I had a guy from the tourism office who had to walk with me through their big market in the capital town of Castries and talk to vendors to let me take photos, he said that normally they will charge you something.

 

 

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On 23/02/2020 at 11:32, Bryan said:

The  cauliflowers have arrived !

 

Cauliflowers for sale in a market, England, UK Stock Photo

 

Hey! I recognise two of them. The one under the 99P sale notice is Arthur and the one in the left hand basket with her back to the camera is called Jemima.

 

Hi guys.

 

Allan

 

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4 hours ago, Michael Ventura said:

I have shot photos in many markets around the world and the only places I have any problems have been in the Caribbean.  Once in St. Kitts, a man grabbed my then girlfriend's arm (she was taking photos of his stall at market) and would not let go until we paid him some money....I ended up giving what pocket change I had and he let go.  My GF was very rattled by the whole event...first time in the Caribbean, and wanted to go back home.  

 

On the island of Granada, I had a guy from the tourism office who had to walk with me through their big market in the capital town of Castries and talk to vendors to let me take photos, he said that normally they will charge you something.

 

 

 

I think the case in a lot of heavily visited countries where tourists are continuously poking cameras in people's faces. The locals first get sick of being bugged and then learn that they can squeeze (in your GF's case, literally squeeze) some cash out of the annoying tourists by charging for photos. The Maya vendors in Guatemala, especially the children, who are very street-smart, are really adept at getting money out of camera-lugging tourists. No wonder the Spanish had such a difficult time "conquering" them.

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The Maasai do not like to be treated like another "wild animal" by tourist photographers. We were told a spear might head our way if we just grabbed a shot. My Maasai photos are from villages that were being paid. As I recall it was only $40-50 dollars from each of about 15 of us and that would be half a year's income for them. They dressed beautifully and sang and danced and demonstrated their way of life. So they were definitely paid models. I was often dying to get shots of pitiful towns we drove through but it felt wrong and would most likely have been resented. Being "quaint" is not much fun for people who are truly poor.

 

Paulette

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9 hours ago, BobD said:

Is it me or are there 3 parallel threads running at the same time here? 

 

Parallel conversations in parallel universes. It's not that unusual these days. 🙂

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