Marb 144 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, andremichel said: How are your war of the worlds images doing? Nothing. Dead in the water. Link to post Share on other sites
Betty LaRue 3,159 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 15 hours ago, John Mitchell said: I wonder if things have slowed down in the invoicing department due to the sale to PA Media. There might be some kind of transition going on. I’ve wondered the same thing. I’m looking for an excuse. After all, it couldn’t be my images, could it? 😎 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KFisher 40 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Having a good month on a few of the other sites but I'm dead over here. Two small sales and one teeny tiny .15 cent sale today. I didn't even know that was possible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allan Bell 2,513 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, KFisher said: .15 cent sale today. I didn't even know that was possible. MS. Allan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Ventura 5,838 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I hit the cliff's edge this week, no sales since last Saturday. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
John Mitchell 4,799 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, Michael Ventura said: I hit the cliff's edge this week, no sales since last Saturday. Nothing since the 11th for me. At least there's a nice view from the edge of the cliff. 😵 2 Link to post Share on other sites
John Walker 271 Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Marb said: Utterly utterly dead. Diabolical. Depressing. A bit like my pet ant 😪 Link to post Share on other sites
Gina Kelly 179 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I do hope it's just a matter of things slowing down because of the sale to PA Media, I'm feeling pretty discouraged by the lack of sales. 😞 Link to post Share on other sites
riccarbi 116 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, KFisher said: Having a good month on a few of the other sites but I'm dead over here. Two small sales and one teeny tiny .15 cent sale today. I didn't even know that was possible. Did you have a .15 cent sale on Alamy? I didn't think this was possible with them either. Is it actually possible, then? If so, I would have to sell 700 pictures at that price just to repay the vintage Minolta lens I've bought on Ebay for 100 bucks yesterday... Edited February 21, 2020 by riccarbi Link to post Share on other sites
KFisher 40 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, riccarbi said: Did you have a .15 cent sale on Alamy? I didn't think this was possible with them either. Is it actually possible, then? Yep... Started off at .50 cents, minus the .35 deduction - a big .15 cents to me. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
andremichel 298 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, John Mitchell said: Nothing since the 11th for me. At least there's a nice view from the edge of the cliff. 😵 A bit crowded though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
andremichel 298 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, KFisher said: Yep... Started off at .50 cents, minus the .35 deduction - a big .15 cents to me. That is below microstock levels. My ms experiment is averaging $1.10 net for Feb 1 Link to post Share on other sites
aphperspective 437 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, andremichel said: A bit crowded though. Gang way coming through.😪 Link to post Share on other sites
Betty LaRue 3,159 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, John Walker said: A bit like my pet ant 😪 Was that tiny white thing with angel wings hovering and reading this thread over my shoulder on my iPad your ant? I’m thinking he loves the attention. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Marb 144 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Absolutely diabolical month. Not a sausage. It just gets worse here, sales lower than micro stock. Sadly now going through a lot of exclusive images here to sell elsewhere as no point in putting all the eggs in one basket if the basket is broken. Edited February 24, 2020 by Marb 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alamy 592 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 21/02/2020 at 18:54, KFisher said: Yep... Started off at .50 cents, minus the .35 deduction - a big .15 cents to me. To be clear and avoid confusion - this sale was via a Korean distributor for a very limited use - internal use only for Data AI algorithm training. Images taken from the novel use pool only. Alamy 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
meanderingemu 1,213 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Alamy said: To be clear and avoid confusion - this sale was via a Korean distributor for a very limited use - internal use only for Data AI algorithm training. Images taken from the novel use pool only. Alamy curious was the information given with the Sale? this would avoid speculation is known upfront Link to post Share on other sites
Alamy 592 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, meanderingemu said: curious was the information given with the Sale? this would avoid speculation is known upfront Novel Use specification wasn't listed, but the sales details were presented in this way: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allan Bell 2,513 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 And so endeth the lesson. Allan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
andremichel 298 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Alamy said: To be clear and avoid confusion - this sale was via a Korean distributor for a very limited use - internal use only for Data AI algorithm training. Images taken from the novel use pool only. Alamy I still don't understand why Novel use has to undercut microstock prices. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
M.Chapman 1,531 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Alamy said: To be clear and avoid confusion - this sale was via a Korean distributor for a very limited use - internal use only for Data AI algorithm training. Images taken from the novel use pool only. Alamy Interesting. I imagine the customer bought 1,000s of images if they were dong AI training, so they may have been in a good position to negotiate. However, what may be crucial for AI training is accurate keywords, or they risk ending up with some strange results Mark Link to post Share on other sites
M.Chapman 1,531 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 21/02/2020 at 18:54, KFisher said: Yep... Started off at .50 cents, minus the .35 deduction - a big .15 cents to me. Doesn't $0.15 = 15 cents? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BobD 572 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 There is no point being in the NU scheme then complaining about the prices. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
meanderingemu 1,213 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, BobD said: There is no point being in the NU scheme then complaining about the prices. correct, and this is why i asked if it was indicated in the Sales term, as per above it actually wasn't made clear since this was a RF sales, so i would understand the photographer asking. this was worse case, NU and distributor. Link to post Share on other sites
John Mitchell 4,799 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) It sounds as if the robots really are coming to get us. Opting out of AI might become increasingly difficult, though. Glad I left NU a number of years ago... Edited February 24, 2020 by John Mitchell 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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