KFisher Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Having a good month on a few of the other sites but I'm dead over here. Two small sales and one teeny tiny .15 cent sale today. I didn't even know that was possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, KFisher said: .15 cent sale today. I didn't even know that was possible. MS. Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I hit the cliff's edge this week, no sales since last Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, Michael Ventura said: I hit the cliff's edge this week, no sales since last Saturday. Nothing since the 11th for me. At least there's a nice view from the edge of the cliff. 😵 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Walker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Marb said: Utterly utterly dead. Diabolical. Depressing. A bit like my pet ant 😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina Kelly Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I do hope it's just a matter of things slowing down because of the sale to PA Media, I'm feeling pretty discouraged by the lack of sales. 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riccarbi Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, KFisher said: Having a good month on a few of the other sites but I'm dead over here. Two small sales and one teeny tiny .15 cent sale today. I didn't even know that was possible. Did you have a .15 cent sale on Alamy? I didn't think this was possible with them either. Is it actually possible, then? If so, I would have to sell 700 pictures at that price just to repay the vintage Minolta lens I've bought on Ebay for 100 bucks yesterday... Edited February 21, 2020 by riccarbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFisher Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, riccarbi said: Did you have a .15 cent sale on Alamy? I didn't think this was possible with them either. Is it actually possible, then? Yep... Started off at .50 cents, minus the .35 deduction - a big .15 cents to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andremichel Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, John Mitchell said: Nothing since the 11th for me. At least there's a nice view from the edge of the cliff. 😵 A bit crowded though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andremichel Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, KFisher said: Yep... Started off at .50 cents, minus the .35 deduction - a big .15 cents to me. That is below microstock levels. My ms experiment is averaging $1.10 net for Feb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphperspective Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, andremichel said: A bit crowded though. Gang way coming through.😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, John Walker said: A bit like my pet ant 😪 Was that tiny white thing with angel wings hovering and reading this thread over my shoulder on my iPad your ant? I’m thinking he loves the attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Absolutely diabolical month. Not a sausage. It just gets worse here, sales lower than micro stock. Sadly now going through a lot of exclusive images here to sell elsewhere as no point in putting all the eggs in one basket if the basket is broken. Edited February 24, 2020 by Marb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alamy Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 21/02/2020 at 18:54, KFisher said: Yep... Started off at .50 cents, minus the .35 deduction - a big .15 cents to me. To be clear and avoid confusion - this sale was via a Korean distributor for a very limited use - internal use only for Data AI algorithm training. Images taken from the novel use pool only. Alamy 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Alamy said: To be clear and avoid confusion - this sale was via a Korean distributor for a very limited use - internal use only for Data AI algorithm training. Images taken from the novel use pool only. Alamy curious was the information given with the Sale? this would avoid speculation is known upfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alamy Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, meanderingemu said: curious was the information given with the Sale? this would avoid speculation is known upfront Novel Use specification wasn't listed, but the sales details were presented in this way: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 And so endeth the lesson. Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andremichel Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Alamy said: To be clear and avoid confusion - this sale was via a Korean distributor for a very limited use - internal use only for Data AI algorithm training. Images taken from the novel use pool only. Alamy I still don't understand why Novel use has to undercut microstock prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Alamy said: To be clear and avoid confusion - this sale was via a Korean distributor for a very limited use - internal use only for Data AI algorithm training. Images taken from the novel use pool only. Alamy Interesting. I imagine the customer bought 1,000s of images if they were dong AI training, so they may have been in a good position to negotiate. However, what may be crucial for AI training is accurate keywords, or they risk ending up with some strange results Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 21/02/2020 at 18:54, KFisher said: Yep... Started off at .50 cents, minus the .35 deduction - a big .15 cents to me. Doesn't $0.15 = 15 cents? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 There is no point being in the NU scheme then complaining about the prices. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, BobD said: There is no point being in the NU scheme then complaining about the prices. correct, and this is why i asked if it was indicated in the Sales term, as per above it actually wasn't made clear since this was a RF sales, so i would understand the photographer asking. this was worse case, NU and distributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) It sounds as if the robots really are coming to get us. Opting out of AI might become increasingly difficult, though. Glad I left NU a number of years ago... Edited February 24, 2020 by John Mitchell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Ashmore Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 18 hours ago, Alamy said: Novel Use specification wasn't listed, but the sales details were presented in this way: As a general point of feedback, it would be handy if the sales details detailed the fees applied (e.g. novel use sale, distributor sale, customer used a special voucher, etc) so that we're not left scratching out heads as to why our portion of the sale is not 40/50% of the sale price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Ashmore Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 14 hours ago, BobD said: There is no point being in the NU scheme then complaining about the prices. Then people just moan about the lack of sales instead.. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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