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48 minutes ago, amycicconi said:

 

Right, thanks.  I'm more so worried about the risk of the install process and its affect on my current catalog.  I think I've sent this thread off topic though :(

I've changed versions without it affecting the catalogue. LR does any conversion that's required, as I recall.

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1 hour ago, Allan Bell said:

 

 

However if you want to process images across mac OS and IOS you need LRCC I believe. At least thats how I read the information on Adobes website.

 

Allan

 

 

That is incorrect Allan although it is certainly confusing with all the different options so it is understandable that you have misinterpreted the information. I run Lightroom Classic on my computer and I occasionally run Lightroom Mobile on my iPhone and iPad. Lightroom Mobile is a basic free app (get it from the App Store) which has add on features that you have to pay for unless you are a CC subscriber in which case you get the whole thing.

 

It is useful if I am doing a portrait shoot and I want to show a client what I am getting on my iPad without carrying a laptop around. Lightroom Mobile is quite advanced now - it can read and adjust raw files, for example, as well as allow some metadata inputting. Not a bad app at all and it does integrate with the desktop version if you want it to do so. I don't as I do all my editing on my computer.

 

For the sake of clarity, you do not have to be connected to the Creative Cloud to run either Lightroom Classic or Lightroom Mobile. 

 

Lightroom (CC) is what they introduced back in late 2017 and that is the one that  runs from the cloud - aimed primarily at casual photography. You can edit on both desktop and mobile devices with it as far as I know but the desktop version has far fewer feature than Lightroom Classic. I have not installed it and don't intend to. It is not recommended (by Adobe) to try to run Lightroom Classic and Lightroom (CC) together. 

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1 hour ago, MDM said:

 

That is incorrect Allan although it is certainly confusing with all the different options so it is understandable that you have misinterpreted the information. I run Lightroom Classic on my computer and I occasionally run Lightroom Mobile on my iPhone and iPad. Lightroom Mobile is a basic free app (get it from the App Store) which has add on features that you have to pay for unless you are a CC subscriber in which case you get the whole thing.

 

It is useful if I am doing a portrait shoot and I want to show a client what I am getting on my iPad without carrying a laptop around. Lightroom Mobile is quite advanced now - it can read and adjust raw files, for example, as well as allow some metadata inputting. Not a bad app at all and it does integrate with the desktop version if you want it to do so. I don't as I do all my editing on my computer.

 

For the sake of clarity, you do not have to be connected to the Creative Cloud to run either Lightroom Classic or Lightroom Mobile. 

 

Lightroom (CC) is what they introduced back in late 2017 and that is the one that  runs from the cloud - aimed primarily at casual photography. You can edit on both desktop and mobile devices with it as far as I know but the desktop version has far fewer feature than Lightroom Classic. I have not installed it and don't intend to. It is not recommended (by Adobe) to try to run Lightroom Classic and Lightroom (CC) together. 

 

Thanks, very helpful info.  I think I want Classic then.

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27 minutes ago, amycicconi said:

 

Thanks, very helpful info.  I think I want Classic then.

 

 You definitely want Classic - it is basically the upgraded version of what you have. Adobe made things extremely confusing by changing the nomenclature.

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On 09/07/2019 at 19:30, amycicconi said:

OK, so I ordered a Fuji XT-2 with the 18-55 kit lens and received it today.  Walked around this evening and took about 40 shots around the neighborhood.

 

Earlier in the day I walked around the city at lunchtime with my RX100 II.

 

Am I nuts.....? but... I'm a bit underwhelmed with the sharpness of the XT-2.    The pics I took earlier in the day with RX100 II are PINPOINT crisp and detailed.  These shots out of the Fuji lack detail and crispness in comparison.  

 

I don't know.  Things are just so effortless with the RX100 and the output is just stellar.

 

Now I'm really confused.  ughhhhhhhhh.   Maybe I'd be happier and more carefree with an RX100 V and an RX100 VI paired for low light and zoom.

Very surprised. I came from a Nikon D800 to Fuji X-T1 kit (18-55) was shocked with the sharpness. I now have the X-T2 and am very pleased with it, too.

I shoot a lot with the Sony RX100-3 as my go-along. I have many images on Alamy from the RX-100-1 and the 3. I find as a general rule the Fuji is sharper, and often downsize the Sony images to gain sharpness.

That said, I will give up neither, since I’ve learned to develop images from each for best results.  You will, too.

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22 hours ago, MDM said:

 

That is incorrect Allan although it is certainly confusing with all the different options so it is understandable that you have misinterpreted the information. I run Lightroom Classic on my computer and I occasionally run Lightroom Mobile on my iPhone and iPad. Lightroom Mobile is a basic free app (get it from the App Store) which has add on features that you have to pay for unless you are a CC subscriber in which case you get the whole thing.

 

It is useful if I am doing a portrait shoot and I want to show a client what I am getting on my iPad without carrying a laptop around. Lightroom Mobile is quite advanced now - it can read and adjust raw files, for example, as well as allow some metadata inputting. Not a bad app at all and it does integrate with the desktop version if you want it to do so. I don't as I do all my editing on my computer.

 

For the sake of clarity, you do not have to be connected to the Creative Cloud to run either Lightroom Classic or Lightroom Mobile. 

 

Lightroom (CC) is what they introduced back in late 2017 and that is the one that  runs from the cloud - aimed primarily at casual photography. You can edit on both desktop and mobile devices with it as far as I know but the desktop version has far fewer feature than Lightroom Classic. I have not installed it and don't intend to. It is not recommended (by Adobe) to try to run Lightroom Classic and Lightroom (CC) together. 

 

Thank for putting me right again Mick.🙂

 

Allan

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2 minutes ago, Allan Bell said:

 

Thank for putting me right again Mick.🙂

 

Allan

Sorry Alllan - putting it like that maybe I should shut up 😀. But I felt it was appropriate and important here as it is incredibly confusing. The only way I figured it out was by actually doing it and even then I am not 100% clear about how it works. But the bottom line is that you don't have to use the new Lightroom CC to use Lightroom on mobile devices.

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23 hours ago, MDM said:

 

That is incorrect Allan although it is certainly confusing with all the different options so it is understandable that you have misinterpreted the information. I run Lightroom Classic on my computer and I occasionally run Lightroom Mobile on my iPhone and iPad. Lightroom Mobile is a basic free app (get it from the App Store) which has add on features that you have to pay for unless you are a CC subscriber in which case you get the whole thing.

 

It is useful if I am doing a portrait shoot and I want to show a client what I am getting on my iPad without carrying a laptop around. Lightroom Mobile is quite advanced now - it can read and adjust raw files, for example, as well as allow some metadata inputting. Not a bad app at all and it does integrate with the desktop version if you want it to do so. I don't as I do all my editing on my computer.

 

For the sake of clarity, you do not have to be connected to the Creative Cloud to run either Lightroom Classic or Lightroom Mobile. 

 

Lightroom (CC) is what they introduced back in late 2017 and that is the one that  runs from the cloud - aimed primarily at casual photography. You can edit on both desktop and mobile devices with it as far as I know but the desktop version has far fewer feature than Lightroom Classic. I have not installed it and don't intend to. It is not recommended (by Adobe) to try to run Lightroom Classic and Lightroom (CC) together. 

 

Having trouble relating what you describe to this comparison chart on Adobe: https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/compare-plans.html?promoid=952G4WLC&mv=other

 

Does the Photography plan (20GB) allow you to house your catalog locally rather than in the cloud?  

 

*** Update, here is a good FAQ: https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/faq/CCPp.html

 

 

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Certainly is confusing isn't it? The comparison table makes no reference to Lightroom (CC) which is what they called the new Cloud based 'app' offering when they launched it with great fanfare and the so-called Lightroom Plan (1TB) doesn't even include Lightroom Classic, like it's become some kind of poor relation. Still, they do state that they will support both types 'for the foreseeable future' which is kind of reassuring for Lightroom Classic users.

 

Lightroom Classic certainly means that you have your catalogs locally so I'm not entirely sure what you use your 20GB for, just casual cloud storage perhaps, or in conjunction with the mobile app perhaps. Hopefully MDM will explain.

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1 hour ago, amycicconi said:

 

Having trouble relating what you describe to this comparison chart on Adobe: https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/compare-plans.html?promoid=952G4WLC&mv=other

 

Does the Photography plan (20GB) allow you to house your catalog locally rather than in the cloud?  

 

*** Update, here is a good FAQ: https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/faq/CCPp.html

 

 

 

Yes what you want is the 20GB Photography plan. Lightroom Classic comes with that and does everything your existing version does and a lot more (the word Classic is the key here). Don't worry. It will be fine. 😀

 

18 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said:

Certainly is confusing isn't it? The comparison table makes no reference to Lightroom (CC) which is what they called the new Cloud based 'app' offering when they launched it with great fanfare and the so-called Lightroom Plan (1TB) doesn't even include Lightroom Classic, like it's become some kind of poor relation. Still, they do state that they will support both types 'for the foreseeable future' which is kind of reassuring for Lightroom Classic users.

 

Lightroom Classic certainly means that you have your catalogs locally so I'm not entirely sure what you use your 20GB for, just casual cloud storage perhaps, or in conjunction with the mobile app perhaps. Hopefully MDM will explain.

 

I think they would lose a huge amount of custom if they enforced the cloud version on everyone as it is not suited for the vast majority of professional to serious amateur photographers so I am not worried about that at the moment. If they ever do then I will be looking elsewhere although life without Photoshop is unimaginable. The 20GB allows you to store images that you sync between the mobile and desktop versions. As I explained above, there is a separate LR Mobile app which runs on phones and tablets and can be automatically set to sync with a local catalog on a computer. Complicated - yes until you use it. 

 

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1 minute ago, MDM said:

Complicated - yes until you use it. 

 

Cheers, dabbled with the mobile app but don't have a real use for it, I can see that it would be good for showing images to clients etc.

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2 hours ago, MDM said:

Sorry Alllan - putting it like that maybe I should shut up 😀. But I felt it was appropriate and important here as it is incredibly confusing. The only way I figured it out was by actually doing it and even then I am not 100% clear about how it works. But the bottom line is that you don't have to use the new Lightroom CC to use Lightroom on mobile devices.

 

Mick,  A misunderstanding has arisen. I did not "put it like that" as you think. If I had I would have written "Thank you for putting me right - again."

 

The - (dash) makes all the difference.

 

I have no objection to anyone correcting my statements (posts) if they are deemed to be false or misleading. I was giving the information as I saw it on Adobes website. I bow to your superior knowledge in this matter.

 

Allan

 

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Allan Bell said:

 

Mick,  A misunderstanding has arisen. I did not "put it like that" as you think. If I had I would have written "Thank you for putting me right - again."

 

The - (dash) makes all the difference.

 

I have no objection to anyone correcting my statements (posts) if they are deemed to be false or misleading. I was giving the information as I saw it on Adobes website. I bow to your superior knowledge in this matter.

 

Allan

 

 

 

 

 

No worries Allan. I didn't misinterpret you and I was only joking but that doesn't always come across on forums. I do seem to be correcting things you say sometimes and don't want it to come across badly as I do value your friendship. 😀

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50 minutes ago, MDM said:

 

 

No worries Allan. I didn't misinterpret you and I was only joking but that doesn't always come across on forums. I do seem to be correcting things you say sometimes and don't want it to come across badly as I do value your friendship. 😀

 

DITTO😃

 

Allan

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On 12/07/2019 at 09:11, MDM said:

 

Yes what you want is the 20GB Photography plan. Lightroom Classic comes with that and does everything your existing version does and a lot more (the word Classic is the key here). Don't worry. It will be fine. 😀

 

 

 

Thanks for all the advice.  I've successfully upgraded my IOS to High Sierra, and signed up for and installed Lightroom Classic via Adobe.  All seems well!

 

I've also spent my first day carrying around the Fuji XT2 and lenses (18-55, 16, 55-230 and 10-24) and was truly pleased with how light the kit was to carry versus my old Nikon gear!

 

Interestingly, I found myself using the 16mm 1.4 most of the time.  Still need time to get used to the lenses and settle in with them all!

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