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Hello,

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but here goes.

I work with Bryophytes (mosses) and other small plants and organisms.

I profile a specific species and prepare detailed images of cells and structure which have measurements alongside (as part of the image) to show size and scale.

These can also include microscope images.

On their own, the images have little useful data to be used as an aid to identification by Bryologists. 

When the measurements and leaf/cell details are included, the images can be very useful.

Does anybody know whether Alamy accepts images which include measurement data placed alongside the subject to indicate size?

Thanks

Barry

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Alamy do not judge submitted photos on their content, only their technical quality. Therefore the answer to your question is likely to rest on how the photo is produced. For the most part you would need to be using a DSLR or similar with at least a 1" sensor. If that is the case and the photos are well lit and focussed, they will very likely be accepted.

 

If the photos are produced with some other specialised kit, it might be worth contacting Contributor Relations to see if there is any way your images could be included on the grounds of their rarity and specialised nature.

 

The final aspect is whether such images would meet with any demand - is anybody likely to pay to licence them. If the answer were to be No, then it is probable that Alamy is not the best place for them. Anyway, enquire with contributor relations for a proper answer.

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Hi Joseph,

Many thanks for your informative reply which makes a great deal of sense.

The main reason I considered placing them with Alamy is that as far as I know, very few people produce in depth 'profiles' of Bryophytes and there is a need for better photographs of the species for both beginners and publishers. 

I'll try a couple and see what happens.

I really enjoy producing them so I am not too worried if they aren't sold.

I used to be a Contributor in the past and sold quite a few images, but they were from a wide spectrum of species.

When i retired I stopped contributing.

Thanks again,

Barry

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4 hours ago, Turnbarry said:

Hi Joseph,

Many thanks for your informative reply which makes a great deal of sense.

The main reason I considered placing them with Alamy is that as far as I know, very few people produce in depth 'profiles' of Bryophytes and there is a need for better photographs of the species for both beginners and publishers. 

I'll try a couple and see what happens.

I really enjoy producing them so I am not too worried if they aren't sold.

I used to be a Contributor in the past and sold quite a few images, but they were from a wide spectrum of species.

When i retired I stopped contributing.

Thanks again,

Barry

I don't know about your photos but it sure would be good if you hung around the forums lol.   I recently took a photo of some moss - then discovered how difficult it is to identify it as anything other than "moss".  It seems mosses look very different depending on how wet or dry they are and one species wet look is almost identical to a completely different species dry look lol

 

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Hi Starsphinx,

You are quite right.

When people first look at Bryophytes as something more than green stuff on a tree or boulder, they quickly find out that whilst they  are simple organisms, they are all quite different in so many ways.

I photograph them in the field then in detail, both wet and dry, together with microscope images.

Hopefully the 'profiles' I do will help people get to know and identify them a bit better.

You can see what Ido with them here:

https://www.barryturnerphotography.com/bryophytes

Cheers,

Barry

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Not sure where you have the measurements - but your site in progress looks wonderful so far!

I'd contact contributor relations as suggested. I have some wildflowers found by the side of a lake in NY that look somewhat similar to some of yours and hope it'll give me a place to start. I wish I'd majored in botany although I do love looking through some huge books of flowers I bought from the remainder table back when you could actually walk into a bookstore and browse. Nice site - and please keep become a forum regular! 

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Hi Marianne,

Thank you for your kind comments about the new site.

I wish I could get it finished there is so much to go up there and so many other things to work on!

The Flora section is the next but one section to go up and hopefully very soon.

My objective this year is to do more work on detailed images of flora.

The initial images passed QC so I am going to try the profile images next.

I will update this post to let you know how I get on.

Best wishes,

Barry

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On 27/03/2019 at 06:16, Turnbarry said:

Hi Marianne,

Thank you for your kind comments about the new site.

I wish I could get it finished there is so much to go up there and so many other things to work on!

The Flora section is the next but one section to go up and hopefully very soon.

My objective this year is to do more work on detailed images of flora.

The initial images passed QC so I am going to try the profile images next.

I will update this post to let you know how I get on.

Best wishes,

Barry

 

Trying your site but so confused. Can you take a look at the question I posted about lichen and see if you have advice when you have a second?  Here's the link: 

 

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Hi Marianne,

I can only view a small version of your image.

Much as I would like to help, the only possibilty of identifying  the lichen would be with a close-up image and even then it might not be possible.

Regards,

Barry

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This useful thread shouldn't be hiding away on the Introductions forum! Glad I stumbled on it!

 

Very cool, what you do, and pretty pictures on your site. I think it's wonderful when someone identifies and satisfies a need in the world with their funky niche interest -- one of their reasons for being here, perhaps! I always wonder how to identify things growing on trees (other plants, mostly), because photography has really helped me to start noticing there is frequently foliage enthusiastically growing on trees that isn't part of the tree itself, sometimes dominating the entire trunk.

 

I need to start doing some serious research because I took photos recently of what might be diseased, insect-damaged, and moldy logs and trunks, so I might have to become an expert in tree disease diagnosis in order to add metadata. Looks like your site could come in handy for some of the growths, so thanks!

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Hi KHA,

Glad you like what I do!

You know, even at 70 (just) I still find it astounding the sheer expanse of nature's works in our world.

I get excited when I see something new and the immense variety is mind-boggling.

One of the easiest ways to look at the micro-world is to get a decent illuminated loupe and keep it in your pocket.

Look on the bark where it is covered in green or dark areas of moss or lichens, fungi or anything that looks unusual, you won't be disappointed.

Trees are the source of life for many organisms.

Best of luck with what you do, drop me a line through the web site If I can help any time.

Regards,

 

Barry

 

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On ‎17‎/‎06‎/‎2019 at 15:07, Turnbarry said:

Hi KHA,

Glad you like what I do!

You know, even at 70 (just) I still find it astounding the sheer expanse of nature's works in our world.

I get excited when I see something new and the immense variety is mind-boggling.

One of the easiest ways to look at the micro-world is to get a decent illuminated loupe and keep it in your pocket.

Look on the bark where it is covered in green or dark areas of moss or lichens, fungi or anything that looks unusual, you won't be disappointed.

Trees are the source of life for many organisms.

Best of luck with what you do, drop me a line through the web site If I can help any time.

Regards,

 

Barry

 

 

Great, thank you!

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Hi Barry - took a look at your images - very nice! The images themselves are very beautiful - I suspect they would sell, but by putting the measurements in a box on the image you do reduce their saleability. Basically by doing that you are requiring potential purchasers to not only like/want the image, but like what you have said, and want the text box where you have put it. 

 

Have you considered either putting up two images, one with and one without the text box (as you have done I think with T5DM9F/T5DM8E),  OR putting up the image with no text, but putting all the text in the "Additional Info" section in Alamy Image Manager, which then shows up when someone zooms the image - the caption could always point an interested purchaser to the extra info provided?

 

I think this would make them more saleable

 

Kumar

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Kumar,

Thanks for taking the time to have a look at what I am doing, I'm glad you like them..

You are right of course and I have thought about doing as you suggest.

I haven't uploaded anything just lately but have thought that the 'full spectrum' of the images needs to be available, both with and without data.

As they are, not so much obscure, but 'niche' subjects, it is difficult to know how much to include as some publishers would want the measurements, some not.

I now do a 'Display' image as well as those with data, but may well re-post each species with the full range of versions available for each.

It is a slow process working the images up but I need to address the Alamy images too.

Once again, thanks for your advice and time.
I will let you know when I have re-worked the Alamy images.

Best Wishes,

 

Barry

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