stipe Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 How do you set an image you want to be exclusive for Alamy? Do you click on "Only available on Alamy"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stipe Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Before checking the "Only available on Alamy" box, it might be a good idea to wait for the new exclusive/non-exclusive contract to come out. It might contain a few surprises... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Walker Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 hours ago, John Mitchell said: Before checking the "Only available on Alamy" box, it might be a good idea to wait for the new exclusive/non-exclusive contract to come out. It might contain a few surprises... Are you saying we won't be able to change the 'exclusive' option if we don;t like the new contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 55 minutes ago, John Walker said: Are you saying we won't be able to change the 'exclusive' option if we don;t like the new contract? Or maybe the 6 month waiting period will apply here as well? Or will it be the Hotel California model? Oops. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, John Walker said: Are you saying we won't be able to change the 'exclusive' option if we don;t like the new contract? I doubt very much that would be the case, but who knows. We don't really know what Alamy means by "exclusive" yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 47 minutes ago, wiskerke said: Or will it be the Hotel California model? Oops. wim "Some dance to remember, some dance to forget..." P.S. I almost checked in, but then had second thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, David Pimborough said: Anyway a reply from Alamy "We will be introducing a “Not exclusive to Alamy” filter soon, so once that is live you will be able to mark them as exclusive. " That will make things easier to find and correct That should be helpful, but first we need a proper definition of "exclusive" (and "not exclusive"), plus we need to see the terms of the new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 hours ago, John Mitchell said: That should be helpful, but first we need a proper definition of "exclusive" (and "not exclusive"), plus we need to see the terms of the new contract. so a buyer will see "not exclusive to Alamy" then search for the photo on a micro site and buy it for 35 cents. still don't understand why you would put the same photo for sale on different platforms ? my small brain I guess, don't get it 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, Ace said: so a buyer will see "not exclusive to Alamy" then search for the photo on a micro site and buy it for 35 cents. still don't understand why you would put the same photo for sale on different platforms ? my small brain I guess, don't get it 😁 I don't submit to micro sites, but I don't have all my own eggs in one basket either. Alamy has always counseled against this approach BTW. Stock agencies are often very different and have different customers. Also, we've not been told yet about images on POD sites and other grey area websites, duration of "exclusive" designation, etc. P.S. I doubt very much that Alamy is going to advertise that an image is "not exclusive to Alamy". That wouldn't make much business sense. They are just referring to a filter that we can use to identify our own non-exclusive images by the sounds of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Ace said: so a buyer will see "not exclusive to Alamy" then search for the photo on a micro site and buy it for 35 cents. still don't understand why you would put the same photo for sale on different platforms ? my small brain I guess, don't get it 😁 Largely different buyers. If someone has a subscription or other arrangement with another outlet, they're not likely to shop around - the shopping around comes when making the choice of supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Cryptoprocta said: Largely different buyers. If someone has a subscription or other arrangement with another outlet, they're not likely to shop around - the shopping around comes when making the choice of supplier. Something else to consider is that if you're in the distributor scheme (I am), your images aren't really "only available on Alamy", and they can already be licensed for a variety of amounts because distributors set their own prices, which may be lower or even higher than Alamy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, John Mitchell said: Something else to consider is that if you're in the distributor scheme (I am), your images aren't really "only available on Alamy", and they can already be licensed for a variety of amounts because distributors set their own prices, which may be lower or even higher than Alamy's. I think our share of distributor sales will remain the same. Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 57 minutes ago, NYCat said: I think our share of distributor sales will remain the same. Paulette Yes, that's the rumour. However, the point I was trying to make (in response to Ace's comments about micros etc. above) is that our images are already spread around to different agencies charging varying fees -- sometimes almost as low as microstock -- if we're in the distributor scheme . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 04/01/2019 at 17:45, David Pimborough said: Anyway a reply from Alamy "We will be introducing a “Not exclusive to Alamy” filter soon, so once that is live you will be able to mark them as exclusive. " That will make things easier to find and correct What a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 13 hours ago, John Mitchell said: Yes, that's the rumour. However, the point I was trying to make (in response to Ace's comments about micros etc. above) is that our images are already spread around to different agencies charging varying fees -- sometimes almost as low as microstock -- if we're in the distributor scheme . John, that's a fair point about the distributor scheme, thinking of dumping it and presentation. thinking ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 42 minutes ago, Ace said: John, that's a fair point about the distributor scheme, thinking of dumping it and presentation. thinking ......... You can't opt out of presentation. Only out of Personal Use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 9 hours ago, Ace said: John, that's a fair point about the distributor scheme, thinking of dumping it and presentation. thinking ......... Not me, I'd lose a sizeable chunk of my income if I opted out of the distribution scheme. I don't really have anything against it. I just brought up distribution to make a point -- i.e. our images are already spread around and available through different agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 12 hours ago, gvallee said: You can't opt out of presentation. Only out of Personal Use. sorry meant personal use, but not sure yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Ace said: sorry meant personal use, but not sure yet I have opted out of PU a while ago as I couldn't stomach the dishonesty and lack of interest on fraudulent uses from Alamy. As predicted, some migrated to Presentation... At least I have taken little action I could. I have suggested to Alamy in the Suggestions and Ideas section of the Forum to allow us to also opt out of Presentation. Gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 hours ago, gvallee said: I have opted out of PU a while ago as I couldn't stomach the dishonesty and lack of interest on fraudulent uses from Alamy. As predicted, some all migrated to Presentation... At least I have taken little action I could. I have suggested to Alamy in the Suggestions and Ideas section of the Forum to allow us to also opt out of Presentation. Gen Agree. Its the obvious wrong use of an image as PU thats bugs me . Dont see with how, as it us, you can challenge buyers ? Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stipe Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 hours ago, gvallee said: I have opted out of PU a while ago as I couldn't stomach the dishonesty and lack of interest on fraudulent uses from Alamy. As predicted, some migrated to Presentation... At least I have taken little action I could. I have suggested to Alamy in the Suggestions and Ideas section of the Forum to allow us to also opt out of Presentation. Gen Did you ask Alamy to opt out of Presentation? A couple of years ago I asked Alamy to opt out of PU because sick of fraudulent uses. As a few days ago I sold a panoramic image of a Kuala Lumpur skyline for a highly doubtful Powerpoint presentation, I decided it's time to opt out also of this use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, stipe said: Did you ask Alamy to opt out of Presentation? A couple of years ago I asked Alamy to opt out of PU because sick of fraudulent uses. As a few days ago I sold a panoramic image of a Kuala Lumpur skyline for a highly doubtful Powerpoint presentation, I decided it's time to opt out also of this use. No point in asking, it's not allowed. That's why I posted it in the 'Suggestions' section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyrsis Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just received an email with details of the contract changes. I’m assuming that as Alamy is the only library we have uploaded our images to they are all deemed to be exclusive to Alamy, even for distributor sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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