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Which are the best choice Rf or Rm, if the photography works, only available on Alamy?
Akos Horvath Photographer posted a topic in Ask the forum
Dear Alamy community and contributors! Please help me, what do you think about this? Which are the best choice : Rf or Rm, if the photography works, only available on Alamy? Waiting for your answers, Many thanks, King Regard, Akos Horvath Hobby Photographer -
Good morning, dear forum members. I'm sure you've talked about this topic many times , but I would really appreciate if you could invest a little more time and help me to find out what I am missing. First of all, I want to tell you some facts about me and my pictures - just to clarify a few things. - I am Olympus Visionary/Ambassador from Switzerland - My pictures are constantly published at National Geographic and winning different contests, awards etc. - All my pictures are exclusively at Alamy and I don't sell my pictures anywhere else - QC accepts 100% of my uploads, not a single one has been rejected - All my pictures are RM only - All my pictures got 100% info and optimized discoverability A short story why RM only. Few years ago I did a small test and uploaded 10 pictures to Shutterstock. There have been many downloads every day and I've received around 400$ after 6 months. That was fine and I almost decided to upload ~4000 pictures there. But something happened just before I did, and now I'm glad it happened. One day I came to a supermarket and was shocked to see "Kleenex" tissue packages with my picture on the box. There were tons of those on every wall. I called Kleenex and they told me it was a download from Shutterstock. RF means they can use it as they wish, without limits. There have been hundreeds of thousands packages in every city, in every supermarket. I got 20 cent for the download. More examples came soon after that. SNCF, DB and SBB used my pictures in Paris central station as well as many stations in different towns of France, Germany and Switzerland. Huge posters everywhere, 20 cents for me. Dozens of books were published, using my pictures, 20 cents for me. Every corner of swiss travel websites was full of my pics, again 20 cents for me. Those are only few examples, why I decided to go RM only in the future. Since Alamy is the last and only Website which pays 50% (im exclusive) and got RM option, I decided to upload some pictures for a test here. Half a year has passed, but no sales. Please have a short look at my Portfolio. I cover almost all types of photography with the focus on macro, wildlife, landscapes, astro, travels, portraits, low light, artistic light paintings etc. I would like to know what I do wrong at Alamy now. I know that the test amount of my pictures is very low but is this really the only problem? I thank you for your time. Kind Regards Orest Olympus Visionary
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My images are nearly all soft editorial and all are Rights Managed (RM). I always tick the 'Editorial Only' box when there are any unreleased people or property in the image, which is most of them. I also include a 'belt and braces' disclaimer in the additional info box, viz 'This image has no model or property releases assigned to it and is available for editorial use only.' Because I feel sure setting the 'Editorial Only' tick box is restricting my sales, I want to remove that restriction where possible (though I know there are some subjects where Alamy specifically asks that the restriction be present). I do, however, want it to be abundantly clear to the licence purchaser that they would need to seek permission from the people or owners of property depicted, if they wanted to use the image commercially. I know Alamy include a warning in small print on the image details page and again in the licence contract, but I would like a warning to be included in the image metadata, so that where the image goes, the warning goes too. The disclaimer I am planning to include in the additional info box is loosely based on the warning Alamy has on its image details page. The text I plan to use is: 'This image has no model or property releases assigned to it and is intended for editorial only use. If you want to use the image commercially, you might also need to seek permission from any people depicted and/or the owners of any property, estate, trademark or brand shown.' I am not expecting any authoritative legal opinion, but I would be interested to hear contributors viewpoints on my plans to proceed in this way and/or the disclaimer I intend to include. I would also warmly welcome any comments Alamy themselves might care to give.
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Hello dedicated photographers! This topic may have been questioned before long ago. But I need clearer answers based on your own experience, not theoretical one. Is it right RF photos are tend to get more sales than RM these days? Because I saw usual buyers are often from repeater companies, like The Sun, BBC, Guardian, and other media from British and Europe. This makes me assume ordinary buyers from another countries are prefer to buy RF than RM. What do you think? Thanks
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Couldn't find the answer in the forum. In RM licensing, when someone buys a license, can the image be sold anyone else with RM license again or should it need to be waited for the first license time to over?
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I recall a forum thread a while back in which (besides carrying on the eternal debate about the pros and cons of RM and RF), it was said that Alamy prefers RF because this is increasingly what clients want. This has stayed at the back of my mind, and I thought it should be possible to test how true this is by counting the number of searches in Alamy Measures that specify RM and RF. AM appears not to provide any information other than the search terms on all-of-Alamy searches, so I went to my own most important pseudonym and looked up searches from 1st January to 30th June this year. I stopped counting after 100 pages of search results. Here are the results: Searches that specify RM or RF RM: 25 searches RF: 14 searches Distribution of RM and RF in pseudonym RM: 95% RF: 5%. The results should be treated with a lot of caution. First of all, number of searches that specify RM or RF is very small and more data might change the picture. Secondly, most of the images under this pseudonym are RM and this probably skews the results. I used only one pseudonym because my pseudonyms aren't subject-exclusive so a lot of searches show up in more than one. Thirdly, results are also likely to vary by subject matter. But if more forum members were willing to chip in with their own figures, we might build up a more general picture.
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After the new AIM was introduced, I began listing more RF than I did in the past. As of this moment, 39% are RF. I just ran the numbers for the past year, and 24% of what sold are RF. Not bad numbers. Quite a few if not most are plants. I didn’t count subject matter, but now I’m curious! I’ll take a look. The reason I’m mentioning this is because in another thread I said I would know more after some months went by and let ya’ll know. I’m a woman of my word. Betty P.S......58% sold are plants.
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To better understand RM vs RF battle i'd like to share my 2018 sales: - $$$ RM sales: 35% of total year revenues - $$ RM sales: 60% - $ RM sales: 5% I just started to sell RF on Alamy so i dont't have any sales at the moment . What's yours?
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I always thought that an image can be either RM or RF and if we labelled it as one at a library, we had to stick to the same RM/RF classification if we then sent it to any other library. But I just I came across a library that offers images with the option for the buyer to select whether to buy as RF or RM. I was surprised to see this. What does everyone think of that? Andy
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..again, i'm sorry! I apologise for debating this again and again but i was looking at your ports, people who confirm daily in "slow month" or "post your positive results" or "which is your <month>---something" they're good sellers. For the following categories i've noticed some of you use RM, some RF (maybe Editorial) and i really couldn't find a reason to stay relaxed on that or to say to my mind "now i' see the light!!!" - Food - Landscapes without people or brands - Wildlife / Animals - Not branded objects How could you explain the RM vs RF usage then? Technically and legally speaking, each of the above category pictures could go in the RF market, but.... many uses RM (as i do). Which are your thoughts? Thanks in advance to share these.
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Hi, guys. I would like to ask RM or RF sells better your image. What kind of rights do you prefer to check your images on Alamy?
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Change license after upload?
Zigzagmtart posted a topic in Alamy Quality Control and technical queries
Trying to come to grips with the new image manager. I have two pseudo's one for RF and one for RM. The default appears to be RF and the pseudo is correct for that. But when uploading via the image manager how do I change the psuedo and license if that batch is intended to be RM? It appears those can be changed after the fact, but the image is at that point already on sale, and I thought you could not change the license after the image was on sale? Maybe it is just that simple but I'm confused. Would anyone care to clarify please? -
Hi, New guy here I have couple of questions I couldn't google answers to... I hope you guys could help me here. First just wondering about if it's allowed to have image sold as rights managed licence exclusively and also have the exact same photo selling on print on demand site (Fine Art America) at the same time? As far as I know Fine Art America only sells prints and now licences? Also if I'm having a original photo selling as right managed licence in Alamy but also I have different edit of the same photo for example added light spot with lens flare and reduced size and selling it on microstock site... Is this allowed to do? Thanks!
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Can someone tell me how this is an RM sale? Country: Worldwide Usage: iQ sale: Single company - multiple use editorial only Industry sector: Education Start: 24 March 2017 End: Unlimited This is the second one I have had. Both are iQ sales. I know there is special licensing with iQ, and you are usually selling to the company that owns the brand in the image, but sill, is this not RF? With multiple use and unlimited time, how could this be classified as RM? Jill
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Just wondering how many of you gave a try to RF instead of RM. I mean, did you try some batch of pictures like RF after a long time of RM? Any increase of revenues?
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Selling images to become Mobile App cover, book cover or music album cover...
Dreamsgate Pictures posted a topic in Ask the forum
Hi, I started a few months ago to sell MicroStock photography... I'm stating to wondering ; how can I sell an image that could become a cover for a book, a music album or even a mobile App cover ? Thanks -
hey i'm new at alamy. I want to know should i RM or RF for my nature shots, Which one license type should be more profitable for me Thanks
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Hi, I am new here and don't know the exact difference between RM and RF licenses. I chose RF for my first 8 submissions, but searching for keyword like "Boeing 747" on Alamy I saw that the majority of photos were RM. Which one should I choose for my next photos, which one is better or is there any price difference between them? Thanks, Canonist
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Hi Guys, About to do some model release photos in studio and got thinking how pedantic we are supposed to get with the model and property releases? What really got me thinking was I have no problem getting the model release but what about the clothes she may be wearing? Do I need a release from River Island, M&S, Next? Also what about jewellery? Make-up? Surely these all come up as property? Tell me to get back to key wording and stop thinking so much and creating problems that are not there Happy Easter Regards Paul Thompson Edit No it is not an excuse to ask her to remove all of the above, lol
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Hi!! I'm new to the stock photo world and to Alamy. Wondering if Alamy's search results favor "RM-Exclusive" images over the other license types? Apologies if this is answered somewhere, I can't seem to find an answer. Thanks!
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hi all, i'm wondering how to setup my wildlife images, if better RM or RF. Animals in general are something which sold better as RM (low volume/high sales) or as RF (high volumes) ? I know every picture is different, so which considerations do you make in order to select the above? 1) Generic image (RF) or more specific image (lion closeup VS lion at the zoo for i.e.) 2) Background which could affect the category (beach portrait VS indoor portrait for i.e.) 3) Selective focus (RF images are often with a larger depth of field) 4) ... what else? thanks in advance
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Usage: iQ sale: Magazine, Editorial print and digital use. Repeat use.
Julie Edwards posted a topic in Ask the forum
I have been looking at my sales and notice the following sales detail seems to be on the increase. Country: Worldwide Usage: iQ sale: Magazine, Editorial print and digital use. Repeat use. Industry sector: Media, design & publishing Start: 05 August 2015 End: 05 August 2020 I realise we hand our image over to Alamy and agree that they are able to negotiate prices etc etc... I also recognise that the market is very difficult and prices reflect this BUT we mark our images as RM for a reason over RF and I can't help but feel that this is RF by the back door. Yes it has a 5 year term but the wording "Repeat Use" basically means its a 5 year RF license ... Maybe we need an iQ opt-out the same as Novel Use, Distribution etc..... I'm not saying I would opt out but it does need a great deal of thought..... Your Thoughts? -
Newbie question. It seems to me that while RF license sells images based on size of the image, RM license seems to give buyers the full-size image? I work in Asia, so it seems like a lot of people here could potentially choose the cheapest RM license, get a full size image, then do whatever they want with it. Legal prosecution? People/identities and companies can 'disappear' Plus sometimes your laws just can't reach certain organizations in certain countries. Or am I mistaken somewhere about how this works? Thanks for any feedback.
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Just wondering how someone can have an image with people in it and no releases, yet have a Royalty Free license. I thought it automatically gets set to RM if you indicate you don't have a release. Yet I've just run across some that are RF with people and no releases.
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If I have a photograph of an individual who is wearing Oakley sunglasses, but you can't really tell they are Oakley (I know they are Oakley), can I sell the image without making it for editorial use only (since I clearly don't have a release from Oakley)? I do have a model release from the individual.
