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Mirco Vacca

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  1. I only can say business is hard. Knowing from experience sometimes you have to do somethings that you would never do in normal situations. Our world is rapidly changing.


    And i like to listen to this videos. Who has the possibilty to ask directly questions to the CEO and getting response. I can imagine how much work such kind of position requires and still trying to find time to listen to the contributors even if you can not make everybody happy. This no politician can.



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  2. Thanks for you answer Paul.


    Releases will not work for me. I prefer to shoot people like they are and not having to get releases loosing some time even knowing that releases can help selling for commercial use. I decided to shoot only for editorial as far it goes to people. When you think about it you will have big circle of clients also without releases. Editorial includes magazins, newspapers, educational books etc. Only this is already a big source.


    Next to that I love this kind of photography. I like to go to the city and shoot something from scenes. I am don’t like much the indoor posing shots. I did at the beginning of my microstock time many model shots indoor and outdoor and realized that I don’t have fun with that. My joy is to take authentic images from life … then I am free to look around an take whatever I want.


    This weekend I will be at the Polish mountains in Karpacz. Can not wait to take images from the mountain towns and the nature around it J. I have one day time for that. They will be in maximum 2 weeks on Alamy I guess.


    To be short Editorial is my direction. That’s why I jumped from Microstock to here.



  3. Sorry for coming back to the topic Microstock. I wanted to add something on my asnwer to Woody.


    I was for 4 years working with Microstock. I learned many things from there. I see often people comparing Alamy to microstock. Like i said before they are both directed to a totally different market. Some beginners find microstock more actractive because it is a fact that you will see sales inmidietly. The sales makes many people happy. Me too at the beginning. But you will realize that you will be speaking about cents. I have an very good image that is sold by Shutterstock 800 times. I counted the revenue that makes 463 dollars :(. 800 times is a big number in 1 year. But knowing that for 463 dollars it could be used in the same year in about 2000 articles since it is RF it makes the image like some discount product spreaded all over the world. I really think it is better to have the same image on a traditional stock site and maybe you will have to wait 1 year until the image is sold but there will be only 1 user without having the feeling of discount + it is much easier to check for abusement. I earned in one month from one Dutch traditional Agency with 8 sales twice as on Shutterstock with 209 sales. I learned from that. 


    I just want to say that Microstock is not a "better place" where you have to think it will solve all your "earning problems". If you are allready in Alamy concentrate to make your portfolio better. I understand that there are low price sales also here but with distance less than on microstock. After trying both i come to the conclusion that for especially editorial shooter Alamy and other similar agencies are a better choice.


    This is my experience.... please dont attack me :). I am not saying that it is a rule. Just my life.....

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  4. Bit like Ron I guess except with zero track record here, I have to say that some of the numbers being reported seem good but pretty depressing when looking at the portfolio sizes and the revenue that they would generate on the micros even with royalties going for a few cents a pop.




    The problem about Microstock is that Editorial wise you would not generate the same as on sites like Alamy. For sure many photographers here have their images also on other traditional stock sites. I sold some editorial on microstock. But far less than commercial. From 1 editorial i sold 40 commercial images. Alamy and other similar stock sites are known to sell more Editorial then commercial. So it is understandeble that they dont switch. I would never do it.



    That's your call, Ron, and good luck to you.


    But with 416 images you've never really been in the game. And the number of images is not the only factor here. Your problem is/was too much theory and not enough activity . . . you talk the talk but you won't walk the walk. The entire stock industry has been collapsing in on itself and continues to do so. So the agency across town is in trouble too.

    WIth all due respect Ed, but I have walked the walk. I have been shooting images for 18 months now, and I have a portfolio of 1000 images elsewhere. But read my post again please and this thread. There are people here that walked the walk, and with 12,000 twelve thousand images (!) have 4 FOUR sales. It has nothing to do with me talking but everything with sales on Alamy.



    There's a photographer at Arterra with a little over 4000 images. He's sells on average 25 images/month at Alamy and he doesn't even have English related images (Alamy mainly concentrates on the English market and he's Belgian, mainly shooting in Belgium)

    Those who moan (OK, I also moan a lot -_-) and sell very little - though they have +2000 images online - should take a GOOD look at what is published in the media. Then take a GOOD look at what the competition has to offer and then have a GOOD look at your own pictures. Ask yourself in all honesty if your images are on par with that competition.


    With all respect, but I see a lot of work done in a very hasty manner, as if the photographer is under pressure to take pictures, steps out but hasn't got the slightest clue what his goal is. You're not going to make it when you run around like a headless chicken, snapping away at whatever that crosses your path without even thinking how the light falls, how the background looks like, not even has the patience to wait for the right moment.


    The guy, I just mentioned, has another approach. Before leaving the door, he THINKS. According to the season, what is hot in the media, what event or celebration is coming up, he plans how and where to go shooting. And he only steps out when the conditions are right. He also makes his own interesting projects. One example: "assistance dogs". He calls up a training center for assistance and guide dogs, makes an appointment and does a coverage about the everyday life of a disabled person and his assistance dog (shopping in the supermarket, handing over the purse to the cashier, opening doors, picking up the phone, etc.).

    When he covers a city or a whole region, he goes on a day with a clear blue sky and brings along a printed map with the location of the interesting buildings which he wants to cover. Each location on the map is marked by a round circle with a dot. The dot marks the location of the ideal position of the sun. That way he knows exactly where and when to stand to shoot that sight in the best possible light (looked it up on beforehand with google maps).

    Yep, preparation is the name of the game. He also has the right equipment for the job. He shoots architecture with tilt & shift lenses.


    Why am I saying all that? Because stock photography is a profession which should not be taken lightly IF you want to sell.





    I hope i am not on of the chickens but great explanation like always ! +1  I also dont live in the UK so i need to always think what could be interesting from other perspective looking at Poland.

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  6. First of all we all know it is in the first place indirect about the money. Concentrate first to create a good collection of images. If you have patience enough the rest will come. Money will not come just that easy.


    Good luck.

  7. But the line between RM and RF is fading. I have sales here on ALamy for 1.50 or 10 dollar. On Shutterstock I have 70 dollar sales (people are reporting 120 dollar sales and higher). I sell my own images for 17.50 euro. In the end its about the bottom line. My RPD on Alamy is 30 times higher then on the micros, but if there are not enough sales, its not helping me at all. 


    This is the last thing I say about RF RM for me, I didnt have the slightest intention to start a debate about that. I just wanted to find out why I havent had a sale in two months. 


    Dont worry no debate.


    You have good images so i think it is just that you dont have enough of them here. Most people that have good profits have at least 10.000 images.

  8. Two minus for asking a normal question and sharing my experiences? Can you please explain? Or are the down votes placed because I submit to micro agencies as well? 


    I am didnt create the micros, I wanted to make money with my photography and when searching the internet I found several options. Getty, Istock, Alamy, FAA and the micros. I had no idea about the differences between RF and RM or about selling photos altogether. So I tried it all. Getty was impossible, my images werent good enough for Alamy or not big enough, I didnt feel  I was good enough for  FAA. I was rejected on Shutterstock and Istock so I ended up submitting to 123RF and a few others. I became a better photographer and got accepted into Shutterstock and then also started submitting to FAA. In July 2012 I was accepted into Alamy and thats where I learned the differences between RF RM and the history of it all and the hate for RF micros. 


    By then I was generating an income from the micros and FAA and my sales on Alamy have always been slow. At this point RF micro makes me 10 times more then Alamy. So forgive me for not wanting to retract all my portfolios from the micros and end up making nothing from RM. Its a business right? 


    So my sales have slowed down on Alamy and after two months of no sales I figured I would ask the question. An honest question. So why the down votes? What did I do wrong? Do I need to apologise for submitting to micros? Is there no place for my images on Alamy? I am in the understanding I am not breaking Alamy rules by selling my images here. 

    "Semmick photo",


    I have to say that i understand your thinking. But you will also see that after you will have more images on Alamy that it also will pay off. I also did send to microstock and it is true that you make allready sales with 400 images. But it are many small sales. I started to see sale on Alamy after 2000 images. And then one that could be like 70 times a microstock sale.


    Comparing Alamy to microstock is almost not possible and not fair. Alamy has much more images so the difference between amount of images and sale is different then microstock (but higher earning). Next to that Alamy has a total different market then microstock. It is the kind of photographer that you are to make decision what fits better to you and also piece of own experience.


    I can imagine as a buyer that it attracts to buy a image of 50 cents. But also i can image that other buyers dont want to licence a image that is allready in use by 1000 other companies for many different uses. This are the buyers that prefers Alamy with much more images and RM licence.



  9. Paul,


    On the other hand if you have zooms it looks like people like your images. Otherwise they would just pass it. Many sales you will get after months. Thats makes it so difficult at the beginning. Maybe you have allready a couple of downloads what you will know about in november for example. If you will have zero sales at the end of year then i would start thinking.



  10. Hello Paul,


    Like i said before i think every image that has good composition and meet technical requirements have chance for sale. I sold an image of a trash can on the street for a environment article. Just look at the object and think for what it could be used. I see many parked cars and i think "this could be used for article about parking problems" and i take a shot. This counts for most of subjects. You never know what a client is looking on a certain day. The best way is to try to cover as many subjects as possible to catch most clients needs. I think Jeff Greenberg is a perfect example. He has almost 100.000 good images from different subjects. His images will appear on many searches. Now you have less subjects but the chance is there that you will get more sales from them on other time. In the meantime you could have other images from other categories that are viewed and eventually sold.


    I think just keep on going and enjoy your photography. You will get rewarded. I experienced that with other agencies also.



  11. It is really a cheating thing.. many times i sell such things that i would never think off :)


    I think everything can be sold ..... as long you have a good composed image without technical issues. Most of city life subjects are all usefull. Even a trashcan can be illustrated in a article about the environment.  More examples for non-released editorial use :

    - Mc Donalds interior with eating people can be used in a fast food article or obesness.

    - Children crossing the street can be useful in a article about the school season.

    - People at the atm is usefull in a article of economic crisis


    and so on.

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