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The Good Old Days

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Remembering the good times.....never to return!

 

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What about the exciting opportunities that Suckerstock was about to bring to us all?

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What about the exciting opportunities that Suckerstock was about to bring to us all?

 

G / iS were stronger then...

 

I singled out the following shot's impressive payout:

 

Buckingham palace is one of the most photographed places in the UK, yet client chose this one. I don't mean any disrespect to your work of which much is vibrant and beautiful, but it appears to be quite an ordinary shot (not even blue hour as sky is completely dark) and earned you almost $1800+ wow. Not sure these days it would do even 10% as well but who knows. 

 

I should have dropped out of law school in 2004 and picked up my camera instead :) 

 

As for the shot, I did a google reverse search to see where the billboard may be or anything about the client (to see if they then went on to license from MS which is what @geogphotos is implying but no luck. 

 

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I joined Alamy with a Canon 5d Mk1 in late summer 2009. I should have joined and known earlier what took me a few years to learn (still learning). However, I joined in time to get at least quite a number of good sales (not record-breaking compared to some reported sales, though) . Most remarkable was an RF sale of a rape field, mill and tree for $365 in 2011 and an RM sale in 2012 of a famous Danish building for $602. My first sale was in January 2010 of the COP 15 supporting demonstrations in Copenhagen (RM - $245) - and back then the  photographer received 60% and distributor sales were pretty rare - and payment required a cleared amount of $250, as far as I remember . I thought this would make a pretty good extra income - but I was too late in business.

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Goodness, I can only dream of sales the like of which Colin has shown!

 

My first leases, with a handful of images, were for $400 and $300 for the same photo, but I was working full time then so couldn't add significantly to my collection. The same photo has sold several times since, each time for (significantly) less cash.

 

Like Niels, I missed the boat, but having fun swimming behind :)

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Wow! I'm impressed. I started submitting in 2007, and I saw a lot more $100+ and $200+ sales back then. However,  it seems that some contributors' good old days were gooder than others'.

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That was the amazing thing, both were very ordinary shots especially windsor castle where the sky was terrible but which sold for $8000. It was used by dupont in a global advertising campaign where a glass fascade was placed as a layer over my image - it worked for them ! Up until then I uploaded only my best work, after that sale I uploaded virtually everything.... oh and I received 70% - $5600  but exchange rate was 1 GBP=2 USD !

 

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Indeed:

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Country: Worldwide
Usage: Non-Editorial Electronic and web uses
Media: Corporate website, single design
Industry sector: Travel and Tourism
Sub-Industry: Package Holidays
Placement: Home page
Image Size: up to 1/4 screen
Start: 16 March 2004
End: 16 March 2005

$706.71 

 

and the same image on the same day 

 

Country: United Kingdom
Usage: Direct mail and brochures
Media: Promotional brochures/ leaflets/inserts
Industry sector: Travel and Tourism
Sub-Industry: Package Holidays
Print run: up to 100,000
Placement: Front cover
Image Size: 1/4 page
Start: 16 March 2004
End: 16 March 2007

$ 883.39

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If today's new clients saw these figures on the forum they might expect to have to pay them still.
Unfortunately, forum members keep posting full details of low value sales on here, which (assuming clients look in here) might make them insist on the same deals.

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Nearly $12,000 on just two images, I'm stunned (and a little jealous). What a dramatic change in less than 10 years. Somehow I doubt it's all the fault of contributors reporting low prices.

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I started making sales on Alamy in 2008, but I never saw ones as high these. However, I had some nice direct downloads from my PhotoShelter website around that time, including a memorable $600+ one by Starbucks. It was for Web use, and today the same image would be available for coffee beans. However, "the good old days" weren't all that they are cut out to be (for me at least). I now have many more sales than I ever did in film, pre-Internet days. Still, it's remarkable how things have changed.

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Interesting original post. That statement wasn't so different than what I was seeing at the time from a certain large agency that will go unnamed. As for Alamy, I seem to recall having maybe three or four thousand images up and records show that I made a total of four sales that year, adding up to a bit less than seven hundred bucks. Someday, I'll learn the Alamy magic, someday.

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10 hours ago, mickfly said:

Unfortunately, forum members keep posting full details of low value sales on here, which (assuming clients look in here) might make them insist on the same deals.

 

Yes, please stop that. Sometimes it is a virtue not to spread your disappointment all around.

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Hi there and Happy New Year!  My first sales on Alamy. Now I average about one sale a month.

AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 19 May 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Direct mail and brochures
Media: Direct mail A6
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: up to 200,000
Placement: Single sheet
Image Size: 1/4 page
Start: 01 June 2005
End: 01 September 2005
$ 177.18
AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 19 May 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Advertising and promotion
Media: Newspaper national - advertising
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: up to 2 million
Insert: less than 25
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1/4 page
Start: 01 June 2005
End: 01 September 2005
$ 1794.92
AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 19 May 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Advertising and promotion
Media: Advertising posters
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: up to 1,000
Image Size: A3 (297mm by 420mm)
Start: 01 June 2005
End: 01 September 2005
$ 484.68
AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 19 May 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Advertising and promotion
Media: Outdoor display – billboard/transit ad
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: up to 500
Image Size: 4 Sheet 60inx40in (152.40cm x 101.60cm)
Start: 01 June 2005
End: 01 September 2005
$ 864.51
AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 19 May 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Advertising and promotion
Media: Advertising posters
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: up to 1,000
Image Size: A4 (210mm by 297mm)
Start: 01 June 2005
End: 01 September 2005
$ 438.52
AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 22 June 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Direct mail and brochures
Media: Direct mail A4
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: unlimited
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1/4 page
Start: 01 July 2005
End: 01 October 2005
$ 378.20
AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 22 June 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Advertising and promotion
Media: Outdoor display - Billboards
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: up to 100
Image Size: 16 Sheet 120inx80in (304.80cm x 203.20cm)
Start: 01 July 2005
End: 01 October 2005
$ 737.24
AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 22 July 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Advertising and promotion
Media: Newspaper-provincial/free - advertising
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: up to 1 million
Insert: 1
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1/4 page
Start: 01 August 2005
End: 01 September 2005
$ 252.94
AKP1BD AKP1BD Amandawithlaptop David Olsen 22 July 2005 Rights Managed Country: Poland
Usage: Advertising and promotion
Media: Point of purchase display
Industry sector: Telecommunications
Sub-Industry: Telecomm Companies
Print run: up to 1,000
Image Size: A6 (105mm by 148mm)
Start: 01 August 2005
End: 01 February 2006
$ 517.65
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Posted (edited)

Maybe wishful thinking but...

 

Earlier in the year I increased my percentage on POD's by a couple of points. It hasn't seemed to have led to a decrease in sales.

 

I have noticed that at least two of my agents are asking for more the same usages for images than a year or two ago.

 

With a labour shortage (at least here) there does seem to be some elasticity in the market to ask for increased wages. (Not just me but employers organisations are reporting this.)

 

Perhaps its time to start reversing the downward trend.

 

But Richard, I hear people cry, there is still the huge supply of images. True, I reply, but not of images taken tomorrow.

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Bygone days indeed. I do strongly believe that posting low  values here with an accompanying angry face can only hurt. Its an open forum and clients can look around and see what sort of prices they can get. Sure, a big UK company isn't going to get the same deal as those Lithuanian bulk buys that we had recently, but it will certainly give them a great negociating lever. I suggested before, as a joke really, that we should add a zero to the end of every sale we report so that clients only see references to an angry face low of $30 or so and plenty of references to three and four figure sales. Maybe its not such a bad idea. For my part, I am seeing a higher incidence of sales in the $70-$90 region. I'd love to sell more of course but its not all gloom for me. I remember Colin's $8000 sale when he posted about it when it was a current sale, for a fairly ordinary picture too. And my first (and, I suspect, last) four figure sale was a flat out ordinary walking by mid afternoon snapshot of a seaside pier.

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I'm sure if Alamy sales team felt they were getting driven down on price because of the forum they would soon be letting us know and forbidding us from posting figures. Customers will ask a price, and I don't see the sales team entering into a barter over it. Maybe I'm wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time.:unsure:

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I joined in 2010 and it was already too late. 

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8 hours ago, andremichel said:

I joined in 2010 and it was already too late. 

 

 

Ditto 2008

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9 hours ago, andremichel said:

I joined in 2010 and it was already too late. 

 

I joined in 2003 but didn't start submitting until mid 2007. Boy, was that a dumb move.

 

That said, I don't think it's ever too late. In ten years' time these will be considered "the good old days".

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On 31/12/2017 at 09:57, Niels Quist said:

 

Yes, please stop that. Sometimes it is a virtue not to spread your disappointment all around.

 

 

It's a shame we both get a red arrow for an opinion!

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On 04/01/2018 at 00:29, John Mitchell said:

 

I joined in 2003 but didn't start submitting until mid 2007. Boy, was that a dumb move.

 

That said, I don't think it's ever too late. In ten years' time these will be considered "the good old days".

 

My maxim in life is that today is tomorrow's "good old days". Live it whilst it's there. 

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Posted (edited)

I just had a gross $2.20 RM sale "novelty use". If this isn't a micro-sale I don't know what is... 

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