Marb Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Marb said: I didn't put the location as it's generic and not relevant. Sorry but it's in a village far far away from any railway but top marks for trying ;-) It's def a grain silo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Marb said: I disagree. What if a magazine or whatever wants a picture of farmland in the US but not in the UK, or vice versa. How are they supposed to know if your photo features what they are looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Sally said: I disagree. What if a magazine or whatever wants a picture of farmland in the US but not in the UK, or vice versa. How are they supposed to know if your photo features what they are looking for? Fair enough Sally. Point taken and duly noted. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Also fair enough but it's a very unusual type of grain bin as you'll see if you do a search- they're usually concrete or metal. That said, as it is unusual, perhaps it's a local style, in which case the location is highly relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, spacecadet said: Also fair enough but it's a very unusual type of grain bin as you'll see if you do a search- they're usually concrete or metal. That said, as it is unusual, perhaps it's a local style, in which case the location is highly relevant. Again noted, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Whenever i see this kind of debate I'm always reminded of the 'Dunning - Kruger Effect' The effect is a cognitive bias, which occurs when people fail to correctly assess their level of competence, and consider themselves to be much more competent than others. It is a common phenomenan accross all sectors of activity km last 30 days: zooms: 224 sales: 94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andremichel Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 But does 224 zooms represent a steep drop from other months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Quote It is a common phenomenan accross all sectors of activity I heard about that. In surveys, like 80% of people consider themselves to be above-average competent drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 6 hours ago, RedSnapper said: Whenever i see this kind of debate I'm always reminded of the 'Dunning - Kruger Effect' The effect is a cognitive bias, which occurs when people fail to correctly assess their level of competence, and consider themselves to be much more competent than others. It is a common phenomenan accross all sectors of activity km last 30 days: zooms: 224 sales: 94 Interesting - I guess sales for Alamy News are not zoomed/do not count as zooms - for me, in the last 30 days, 213 zooms, 74 sales Kumar (the Doc one) and it has gone down from 250+ before the "rerank" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Last 30 days: Images: 4592 Views: 5490 Zoom: 21 Sales: 3 Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Richmond Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Interesting discussion that has now got back on track. The recent re-rank has increased my zoom count to 73 for the period Nov 20 to Dec 19, against 40; 59 and 37 for the corresponding time periods (20th to 19th) for the previous three month set. I was doing well - now I'm doing better. Sales volumes are steady so far 20; 21; 22; 20 for the corresponding periods but I wouldn't expect a zoom increase to show up in more sales for a month or so. Should be interesting, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Brasilnut said: Last 30 days: Images: 4592 Views: 5490 Zoom: 21 Sales: 3 Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Quote Time... I made a bet with Philippe that if I join the 100k club by the end of 2018 he would come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Images or $$$? Good luck, either way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Looking at my desktop numbers just now: Views 5,249 Zooms 60 CTR 1.47 Sales so far in Dec 9 My numbers on Alamy keep improving . . . except for prices paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: Looking at my desktop numbers just now: Views 5,249 Zooms 60 CTR 1.47 Sales so far in Dec 9 My numbers on Alamy keep improving . . . except for prices paid. Ed your finger did a wrong dance. It is lumber, lumber yard. I had to correct three misspellings in my upload today. Two i’s where only one was needed? (Among others) I must’ve been in a hurry. Actually, I kept getting interrupted by someone wanting supper at 3:30 p.m. What’s your excuse? Wish we could PM. Betty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Betty LaRue said: Ed your finger did a wrong dance. It is lumber, lumber yard. I had to correct three misspellings in my upload today. Two i’s where only one was needed? (Among others) I must’ve been in a hurry. Actually, I kept getting interrupted by someone wanting supper at 3:30 p.m. What’s your excuse? Wish we could PM. Betty Thanks, Betty. I'm not much of a typist and an even worse speller. It's true that I've worked as a copy editor, but that was a crime against nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 15 hours ago, Doc said: I guess sales for Alamy News are not zoomed/do not count as zooms - No, that's not how news works; LiveNews sales are generated by Alamy actively sending the images out by FTP to the newspaper picture desks. They see , and get, a stream of full size images ready to use (or not). They aren't searched for/zoomed on ... km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 18 hours ago, andremichel said: But does 224 zooms represent a steep drop from other months? Not really... pretty constant, +/- about 5%.... The bigger the collection size, ceteris paribus, the less volatile you will find the figures to be Nov 243 Oct 234 Sep 220 Aug 212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 12 hours ago, Ed Rooney said: Thanks, Betty. I'm not much of a typist and an even worse speller. It's true that I've worked as a copy editor, but that was a crime against nature. I enjoy looking at your images from time to time to see a bit more of NYC. My only visit there was a whirlwind trip to be on the Sally Jesse Raphael show with my hubs. Other than the scariest taxi ride of my life going back to the airport, I didn’t get much of a feel for the place. We did pass by Central Park. No fear, I finally covered up my eyes to thwart the taxi driver who was taking extreme delight at watching my face in the rear-view mirror as he threw on his brakes just before he would have struck a pedestrian. It was after that when I covered my eyes. I didn’t want him killing someone just to impress me. Betty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 20/12/2017 at 09:39, Marb said: I can find my images when I type basic, obvious keywords so what is wrong with my keywords ? Maybe the buyer wants something specific, so uses specific keywords rather than basic and obvious ones. For example in KP5M7X you have 'fly'. Sure, a buyer might search 'fly', but they'd get 767,677 hits. If you took the time to identify it (possibly Epistrophe grossulariae, but I'm by no means an expert, and that took me all of twenty seconds) then your chances would be raised to 1 in 11 (if it was that species). Even hoverfly would increase your chances to 7,221 - still high odds, but 100x better than 'fly'. On 20/12/2017 at 09:49, Marb said: I am talking about keywords, not the description which has no relevance in the search. I don't know why you think that. The description is very important in search. Alamy says: " Before you start, think about the potential use of the image and what it’s likely to be sold for, the more accurately you describe your image, the more visibility it will have in customer searches, which will significantly increase your chance of making a sale. " I prefer to check for myself and a couple of weeks back I found a search of over 800 hits where the top file in relevant and two more in the top ten (all older files by the same contributor) had NO keywords at all (not sure how that happened, but certainly none visible on the file page - which in theory should make the file invisible, but like I said, I prefer to check) but an accurate relevant description, so I presume the high position was due to description and a high Alamy Rank for the tog. Back on topic: my zooms were rock bottom in November, but have bounced up to just over Alamy's average during December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpics Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 hours ago, RedSnapper said: Not really... pretty constant, +/- about 5%.... The bigger the collection size, ceteris paribus, the less volatile you will find the figures to be Nov 243 Oct 234 Sep 220 Aug 212 I had zooms like you until the beginning of December. But they've now gone down substantially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andremichel Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 My zooms hit a new recent low of 51 today. Sales for December are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokie Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Anybody else seeing views down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Stokie said: Anybody else seeing views down? Yes, views and zooms down as we approach the end of the month, but this is the Xmas shutdown. While the papers will still be working I guess that many publishers will be on their hols for the next week or so. Been a canny December saleswise mind ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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