JeffGreenberg

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seeing this type license first time:

(2 different images)
                 
10/10/2017 Alamy Print 4.50 -2.25 2.25
10/10/2017 Alamy Print 4.50 -2.25 2.25
 
Enough for one helluva big sandwich at McDonald's-BurgerKing...?
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Huh?

You're "happy" at getting $2.25 for a print sale? (OK, $4.50 for two)?

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Now more detail:

 

10 October 2017 Alamy Print Country: Worldwide
Usage: Alamy Prints – Print Only
Ship to country: United States
08x10 POD Size
$ 4.50
10 October 2017 Alamy Print Country: Worldwide
Usage: Alamy Prints – Print Only
Ship to country: United States
08x10 POD Size
$ 4.50
       

 

     

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2 hours ago, Cryptoprocta said:

You're "happy" at getting $2.25 for a print sale?

 

Could crack smile if X100/daily SAID THE OP

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I've yet to have the pleasure. Is print size always given, or is 08x10 the default?

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5 hours ago, Octavio Campos Salles said:

That's why I don't sell for personal use/non-retail wall print. With all respect, the price paid is quite ridiculous.

 

How do you opt out of that? I have looked but can't see how to do that.

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8 minutes ago, Camera Girl said:

 

How do you opt out of that? I have looked but can't see how to do that.

 

Tick the box in the Optional tab in AIM for individual pictures. For your whole portfolio, I believe you can e-mail CS and they will do it for you.

 

Gen

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Yes, a very disappointing price but an opt out is available ( I assume?).

 

I do hope that there are no micro-stock supporters criticising this low price which after all is for a print for personal use rather than a high res file for unlimited commercial, perpetual future use that they will accept in return for 20 cents or so.

 

Unfortunately, I think this is the market that we are now in. Looking for new customers beyond the traditional stock market which has been so badly trashed since the inception of the micro model ( low price/high volume). Everybody now expects the low prices. It has become the norm.

 

Looking at my RM sales reports from two other agencies a fee of $2 net or less for commercial publishing is sadly all too common. Often it is just a few cents, and that is for RM at so-called 'macro' agencies. Just to point out that Alamy does much better than this though I fear that it must struggle to attract new stock buyers away from these competitors given their give-away prices.

 

What a mess we are in! :(

 

I won't opt of this scheme at least not now.

 

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If you opt out of 'personal use' your images are taken out out of the distribution scheme. Some members are happy with that - some are not.

 

What really irritates the hell out of me is the ridiculously low price for some of the personal use licences.  

I would expect that if someone wishes to buy an image for 'personal use' they should pay the stated price in the price calculator thingie - £9.99/$13.75

 

Why were Jeff's images sold for $4.50/£3.41?  Is Alamy now giving discounts on 'personal usage'? 

 

Or have I got things wrong?  Very happy to be corrected.

 

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14 minutes ago, Gordon Scammell said:

If you opt out of 'personal use' your images are taken out out of the distribution scheme. Some members are happy with that - some are not.

 

What really irritates the hell out of me is the ridiculously low price for some of the personal use licences.  

I would expect that if someone wishes to buy an image for 'personal use' they should pay the stated price in the price calculator thingie - £9.99/$13.75

 

Why were Jeff's images sold for $4.50/£3.41?  Is Alamy now giving discounts on 'personal usage'? 

 

Or have I got things wrong?  Very happy to be corrected.

 

 

I think the uses were for 'Alamy Print' and not for 'personal use'.

 

John.

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9 hours ago, JeffGreenberg said:

 

Could crack smile if X100/daily SAID THE OP

That's the argument for selling micro subs.

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23 minutes ago, Stokie said:

 

I think the uses were for 'Alamy Print' and not for 'personal use'.

 

John.

 

Well and truly corrected.  Thanks John.

Still, an outrageously low price - in my opinion.

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41 minutes ago, Gordon Scammell said:

If you opt out of 'personal use' your images are taken out out of the distribution scheme. Some members are happy with that - some are not.

[...]

 

 

 

Where have you heard that by opting out of "personal use" you are also out of the distribution scheme?

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11 minutes ago, Cryptoprocta said:

That's the argument for selling micro subs.

 

Yes indeed.

 

But this is for one person's use as a print not a micro RF sale to a  global company. 

 

 

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Still, if I go into a shop and buy a print, it costs much more than that, though of course that includes mount and frame.

 

And it vastly undercuts prices on other art sites.

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12 minutes ago, Cryptoprocta said:

Still, if I go into a shop and buy a print, it costs much more than that, though of course that includes mount and frame.

 

And it vastly undercuts prices on other art sites.

 

Correct. I would opt in if the price was realistic with other art sites.

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12 minutes ago, Cryptoprocta said:

Still, if I go into a shop and buy a print, it costs much more than that, though of course that includes mount and frame.

 

And it vastly undercuts prices on other art sites.

 

And what do you think micro-stock sites ( you support them don't you?) have been doing if not undercutting others.

 

 

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8 hours ago, geogphotos said:

 

And what do you think micro-stock sites ( you support them don't you?) have been doing if not undercutting others.

 

 

I don't "support them". I have images still at one micro site, was never on any other, but haven't uploaded anything there for a long time, also deleted about 10% of my port there. You know why I started there (and in fact, sadly, my income here on Alamy is still quite a bit less than from there, even when adjusted for relative port sizes. It may be my port is more suited to the micro market).

 

But your argument is not to undercut yourself by having the same pics at Alamy as you do on micros, which I have never done (separate pics here and there), yet here is Alamy doing the same.

That said, I do feel that the prices on possibly the best-known art site are ridiculously high, which is partly shipping.

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9 minutes ago, Octavio Campos Salles said:

Micro stock is even worst, cause the person not only can print it for his wall but put it in a Coca-Cola ad worldwide

 

Agreed. I don't much like the low price quoted by the OP but I can't see how anybody who accepts the logic of micro stock can complain.

 

And we don't know the actual details of these sales as yet.

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2 hours ago, Octavio Campos Salles said:

 

Where have you heard that by opting out of "personal use" you are also out of the distribution scheme?

I haven't 'heard' it - it's what happened when I opted out of PU.  

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OP meant to be "sarcasm"...

Do I understand correctly, one can opt out of AlamyPrint ONLY?

At any time?  Only annually?  Can opt back in later?

Personally opted out at start of Novel Use back when

it was insanely low & all other prices higher than now...

And out there somewhere there are probably stock shooters

selling 8x10 prints (excluding fine art) directly for, say, $50 ea,

many times annually...?  With worldwide audience &

large volume of images, curious to see frequency of 8x10's

licenses achieved -- of course, even if EVERY SINGLE image

I take-process from this point on sold as 8x10, it would be

bizarre to think whilst shooting, "Snap, I just made $2.25, snap,

I just made $2.25, snap, I just made $2.25....."

 

Unexpectedly, the two different AlamyPrints in OP were taken

in same location of commonly found workplace open to public...

Not what one would expect: famous buildings, scenery, sports action, etc.

 

PS. JUST SEEN BATCH OF $1.04 NET, PROBABLY UK NEWSPAPER SCHEME, SO... :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:  

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31 minutes ago, JeffGreenberg said:

Do I understand correctly, one can opt out of AlamyPrint ONLY?

At any time?  Only annually?  Can opt back in later?

 

No.

 

As I understand it, you can opt out of PU, which then opts you out of prints.

 

Opting out temporarily? Dunno - ask CR and let us know! 

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1 hour ago, Gordon Scammell said:

I haven't 'heard' it - it's what happened when I opted out of PU.  

 

I don't see any of this in the contract, that's why I asked. If you could point out where you saw/read it we would appreciate. Or is it just your impression??

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