Daniel Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 at least for those that have quite a few approved. 13 batches straight ought to count for something. i can see waiting if you don't pass QC regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Yates Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The waiting period penalty is designed to get you to focus on getting your submissions right. 30 days or any other period of time can be used to go out and take more images, review your key wording e.t.c, e.t.c. In the fail situation you just adjust your workflow and put your energy elsewhere. I uploaded 50 images yesterday, I am not sitting around waiting for them to pass, I will get on with something else. Regards Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 what i'm saying is that those that have proved themselves are being pentilized the same as those who fail QC more often. shouldn't the proven ones get cut sone slack (so to speak)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Alamy are looking for every submission to be perfect, not just 13 out of every 14. Perhaps you'll try a little harder next time. Personally I think those who whinge about it on the forum should be upgraded to 60 days... Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 at least for those that have quite a few approved. 13 batches straight ought to count for something. i can see waiting if you don't pass QC regularly. Try 113. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 what i'm saying is that those that have proved themselves are being pentilized the same as those who fail QC more often. If anyone tries to pentilize me, they'll regret it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I agree entirely with the OP. The month (or more) waiting period for those of us with good QC records should be shortened, especially given that the downward trend in image prices -- plus the fact that we now receive considerably less from Alamy for each sale -- means that we need to keep uploading on a continuous basis in order to simply tread water. Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. How about splitting the "failure" queue into two streams -- a slow one for contributors with chronic failure records, and a quicker one for those of us who have only the occasional slip up? This would be a fair and reasonable compromise IMO. While we're on this subject, I would also love to see a QC critique service set up where we could re-send failed images (within limits, of course) for detailed explanations of why they weren't accepted. I have to admit that after almost six years of contributing to Alamy (my first two years were 100% failure-free BTW), I am still puzzled by some of QC's decisions. I hope these comments will be deemed constructive. -John M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 at least for those that have quite a few approved. 13 batches straight ought to count for something. i can see waiting if you don't pass QC regularly. Try 113. With all due respect, spacecadet, bragging won't help this conversation. The overly long waiting period is a legitimate concern IMO, and one that many of us who also have good QC records (perhaps not as good as yours, admittedly) feel needs to be addressed by Alamy. None of us is perfect, including those intrepid souls at Alamy QC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. But John, if your images are failing QC then you should be changing your workflow anyway. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. But John, if your images are failing QC then you should be changing your workflow anyway. Alan I don't consider that a constructive comment. This is supposed to be an area where we offer suggestions to Alamy (as I did above), not offer smug advice. If this particular topic doesn't interest you, perhaps you should respectfully tune out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Yates Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. But John, if your images are failing QC then you should be changing your workflow anyway. Alan +1 Apart from upload processing errors my last QC fail was 10 October 2011. Changing your workflow is good solid advice and will reduce the "havoc" you are experiencing. Regards Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. But John, if your images are failing QC then you should be changing your workflow anyway. Alan +1 Apart from upload processing errors my last QC fail was 10 October 2011. Changing your workflow is good solid advice and will reduce the "havoc" you are experiencing. Regards Craig Once again, my understanding is that this area is for making constructive suggestions to Alamy, not for bragging or offering unsolicited advice to fellow contributors. There are other areas of the forum designed for these activities. Alamy, please correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve B Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I dont think anyone is immune from a QC failure but getting your workflow right sure helps. I check everything at 100% and if any image looks iffy I dont bother submitting it, that way it saves me time in the long run and the alamy QC checkers time as well as they dont have to spend so much time checking my submissions. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Yates Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. But John, if your images are failing QC then you should be changing your workflow anyway. Alan +1 Apart from upload processing errors my last QC fail was 10 October 2011. Changing your workflow is good solid advice and will reduce the "havoc" you are experiencing. Regards Craig Once again, my understanding is that this area is for making constructive suggestions to Alamy, not for bragging or offering unsolicited advice to fellow contributors. There are other areas of the forum designed for these activities. Alamy, please correct me if I am wrong. John; Alamy will simply reinforce their reasons for the penalty as they have done before. Your looking at this from the wrong angle. it's much better to plan for your images to pass, than risk a fail. The above date is not bragging ,back then I followed the sound advice that people kindly gave on the forum and it paid off so far. Alamy please answer the OP and put this post to bed. Regards Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. But John, if your images are failing QC then you should be changing your workflow anyway. Alan +1 Apart from upload processing errors my last QC fail was 10 October 2011. Changing your workflow is good solid advice and will reduce the "havoc" you are experiencing. Regards Craig Once again, my understanding is that this area is for making constructive suggestions to Alamy, not for bragging or offering unsolicited advice to fellow contributors. There are other areas of the forum designed for these activities. Alamy, please correct me if I am wrong. John; Alamy will simply reinforce their reasons for the penalty as they have done before. Your looking at this from the wrong angle. it's much better to plan for your images to pass, than risk a fail. The above date is not bragging ,back then I followed the sound advice that people kindly gave on the forum and it paid off so far. Alamy please answer the OP and put this post to bed. Regards Craig I too plan my images to pass, but QC can be unpredictable at times. I've been contributing to Alamy since 2007, and I have gone as long as two years without a single failure (if I may be allowed some boasting). I posted my suggestions for Alamy (see above) because, like the original poster, I feel that the long wait time is unwarranted, and I hope that Alamy will review this policy in light of the changes that have taken place during the past year -- i.e. smaller payouts to us and lower average prices for images. Both of these are impacting contributors' bottom lines. Hence, streamling the notification process would be the right thing to do IMO. Once again, I believe that this section of the forums is for making suggestions to Alamy, not for debate among contributors. However, it seems impossible not to get drawn into these types of discussions, which generally go nowhere. I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. But John, if your images are failing QC then you should be changing your workflow anyway. Alan I don't consider that a constructive comment. This is supposed to be an area where we offer suggestions to Alamy (as I did above), not offer smug advice. If this particular topic doesn't interest you, perhaps you should respectfully tune out. Fine. If you're happy to produce sub-standard work for a commercial client and then dismiss as 'smug' any suggestion that sub-standard might be improved, then this really isn't the forum for me and I am indeed tuning out. Goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Having to wait for such a long time to hear about one or two images failing QC plays complete havoc with our workflows. But John, if your images are failing QC then you should be changing your workflow anyway. Alan I don't consider that a constructive comment. This is supposed to be an area where we offer suggestions to Alamy (as I did above), not offer smug advice. If this particular topic doesn't interest you, perhaps you should respectfully tune out. Fine. If you're happy to produce sub-standard work for a commercial client and then dismiss as 'smug' any suggestion that sub-standard might be improved, then this really isn't the forum for me and I am indeed tuning out. Goodbye. I would comment on this, but it really isn't worth the effort. Have one on me at the pub this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 at least for those that have quite a few approved. 13 batches straight ought to count for something. i can see waiting if you don't pass QC regularly. Try 113. With all due respect, spacecadet, bragging won't help this conversation. The overly long waiting period is a legitimate concern IMO, and one that many of us who also have good QC records (perhaps not as good as yours, admittedly) feel needs to be addressed by Alamy. None of us is perfect, including those intrepid souls at Alamy QC. Not bragging, just offering a comparison of what may constitute a QC record which doesn't put you in the sin bin for a single fail. btw I don't use the rep buttons. Even in retaliation. It's pretty easy to tell who's doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 The last fail I had came through in 2 days. I don't think there is a standard 30 days for everyone. That was quite a while ago - maybe things have changed since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 The last fail I had came through in 2 days. I don't think there is a standard 30 days for everyone. That was quite a while ago - maybe things have changed since then. Was it a "partial fail" -- i.e. processing errors only -- or the real thing? Alamy does say "up to" 28 working days, but I can't remember receiving a "failed QC" notification in less than a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The last fail I had came through in 2 days. I don't think there is a standard 30 days for everyone. That was quite a while ago - maybe things have changed since then. Was it a "partial fail" -- i.e. processing errors only -- or the real thing? Alamy does say "up to" 28 working days, but I can't remember receiving a "failed QC" notification in less than a month. I had one image fail (CA) out of 55 in that submission which was reported in 2 days, and that was on 25th April 2013. Previously i've had 1 fail on the 16th May 2007 and over 3300 images in 134 submissions since then have passed OK. I don't know if my previous good track record helped but I wasn't sinbinned for a month thankfully. ps not boasting! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The last fail I had came through in 2 days. I don't think there is a standard 30 days for everyone. That was quite a while ago - maybe things have changed since then. Was it a "partial fail" -- i.e. processing errors only -- or the real thing? Alamy does say "up to" 28 working days, but I can't remember receiving a "failed QC" notification in less than a month. No, that was a total fail for interpolation artifacts. It was the first for a long time and I haven't had one since so I think the 'up to 28 days' can indeed be flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Thanks for the feedback. Very interesting to hear about the flexible wait times. I made almost 200 submissions before having my first QC failure (I'm definitely boasting). However, I'm obviously not on QC's "A list" any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The slowest of my last clutch of fails was notified in 9 days. The resubs were all passed in 1 or 2. My most recent in January was failed in a day and the resub passed the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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