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#21 anna182016

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Because GS-images is perfect that's why 


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#22 GS-Images

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Posted A week ago

Because GS-images is perfect that's why 

 

I spent my time giving you solid professional advice. I was trying to help. Sometimes it's hard to be told a better way to do things but there's no need for sarcasm and rudeness. Many of us have given you advice and I haven't noticed a "thank you for your time" yet.

 

I'll leave you to your long career in photography as clearly you know best.  :)

 

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#23 anna182016

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Posted A week ago

I did say Thank you thakyou


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#24 gerardferry

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well dome bill brooks read Ken Rockwell on forums for am illuminating view on them
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#25 GS-Images

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Posted A week ago

 

 

Well the dynamic duo have struck again. Attacking and then making fun of a newby, who they perceive as a threat to their broken business plans.

 
Sick sick sick, and I am not talking about the newby.

 

 

Making fun?

 

I think the OP got VERY GOOD and VERY REALISTIC advice.

But of course - as usual - you know better. Well, go ahead! I'm curious, what advice you have.

 

Cheers,

Philippe

 

 

 

He's just jealous that he isn't part of a dynamic duo himself. I do need a new cape to wear though as my current one has a stain on it.

 

Geoff.

 

[Edit] I see the red arrow brigade are active on this one. It shows -1 at the moment and I know I've had at least 2 greens, so that's 3 reds that I know of. Thanks! I certainly need a little bit of red to contrast with my 904 greens.  :P :lol:  I need more! Give me more!   ;) 


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#26 John Mitchell

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Posted A week ago

everyone thanks for the advice

 

Check out the monthly threads like this one. They will give you an idea of how much some contributors make.


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#27 David_Buzzard

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Posted A week ago

I've been a professional photographer for a really long time, and to be honest with you, it's harder and harder every year to make a living.  Most of what I provide for Alamy are out-takes from my commercial and newspaper work.  Basically, to make any money, you need experience, thousands of dollars in equipment, and time to build experience and a client base.

 

As for stock photography, unless you have a library of tens of thousands of images (and those have to be professional quality), it probably works out a to few hundred bucks, every couple of months.  It took me eight years to build up +/- 2,300 images, and that brings in about $100 to $200 per month.


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#28 gerardferry

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Posted A week ago

its possible to make some decent money via the live news route but its not possible you will come across regular stories that are up taken to provide a living, weddings seem to be the route ro a living in photography with model and actor shoots providing a days wages
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#29 John Mitchell

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Posted A week ago

I've been a professional photographer for a really long time, and to be honest with you, it's harder and harder every year to make a living. Most of what I provide for Alamy are out-takes from my commercial and newspaper work. Basically, to make any money, you need experience, thousands of dollars in equipment, and time to build experience and a client base.

As for stock photography, unless you have a library of tens of thousands of images (and those have to be professional quality), it probably works out a to few hundred bucks, every couple of months. It took me eight years to build up +/- 2,300 images, and that brings in about $100 to $200 per month.


I don't think that -- for general photography, anyway -- you need to spend a fortune on equipment. Last year, I averaged about $275 net per month (10 sales per month on average) with pretty basic equipment. However, I did considerably better than that a few years ago with far fewer images in my collection. It's a jungle out there now.

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#30 anna182016

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Posted A week ago

it's amazing of u guys giving me an idea and thankyou for all the advice basically i have all day free time to shoot and edit 


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#31 Joe Gaul

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Posted A week ago

First of all lets get the mouse thing out of the way. When field mice come into my home and eat through containers to get to my dogs food I use baited traps to capture them unharmed and release them the next day in parkland. I can not bring myself to euthanase a creature just doing it's best to survive.

 

Now for the constructive stuff.

 

The advice you have been given above is solid. It would rarely be possible to come straight into stock and earn a sustainable income. Don't give up the day job yet. For stock expensive equipment is not necessary unless you intend to specialise for example in wildlife (which I somehow doubt) or architecture. Perhaps you could look to other areas of photography such as portraiture or weddings whilst building a stock portfolio.

 

Your existing photos show that you have stock potential but competition is fierce and attention to detail such as correcting verticals etc. would help your photos to stand out. Also, where are the photos of your offspring? Pics of children doing things will sell as will lifestyle shots of family life.

 

These are just some thoughts and you are welcome to treat them with the preverbial pinch of salt.

 

Good luck

Joe


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#32 anna182016

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Posted A week ago

thanks Joe for the advice and ahhhh this mice here are so smart u cannot just catch them lol


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#33 Autumn Sky

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Posted A week ago

Anna -- it is still possible to make money from photography. As example, have a look at this:

 

http://www.nagelphot...hrough-february

 

I don't know if this is legit of course, but I looked at his portfolio and it is very high quality.  Thing to note is that these amounts are from micro-stock which pays significantly less (but sells comparatively more) than Alamy.  I also believe he sells through his own website as well.

 

Bottom line is:  You have to find a way to stand above the crowd, which is not easy in this age of "smartphone photographers".  It is best done through quality, not quantity as many would suggest.  It is also hard and time consuming work.  Good thing is that once portfolio (and skills!) are developed,  it becomes passive income.

 

In your place I'd suggest keeping day job and treating photography as hobby initially, trying through different agencies (not only Alamy where you are not likely to sell anything first 6-12 months) and then make your own decisions.  At each case, good luck!


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#34 wiskerke

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Posted A week ago

Anna -- it is still possible to make money from photography. As example, have a look at this:

 

http://www.nagelphot...hrough-february

 

I don't know if this is legit of course, but I looked at his portfolio and it is very high quality.  Thing to note is that these amounts are from micro-stock which pays significantly less (but sells comparatively more) than Alamy.  I also believe he sells through his own website as well.

 

Bottom line is:  You have to find a way to stand above the crowd, which is not easy in this age of "smartphone photographers".  It is best done through quality, not quantity as many would suggest.  It is also hard and time consuming work.  Good thing is that once portfolio (and skills!) are developed,  it becomes passive income.

 

In your place I'd suggest keeping day job and treating photography as hobby initially, trying through different agencies (not only Alamy where you are not likely to sell anything first 6-12 months) and then make your own decisions.  At each case, good luck!

 

And this is the quality that earns him these $1000 a month. (I assume it is net, but before taxes. He may have a day job or a working spouse.)

From >>5,500 photos with Shutterstock and 2,500 photos with iStock<<

He started around 2010 with stock.

 

Anna,

 

What to do if you do not have that quality (yet)?

Practice practice practice. Those infamous 10.000 hours is no myth.

 

In the mean time: have a look at All of Alamy where all the searches by all the clients are being logged.

You can go back a whole year. (You have to be logged in.) There's a help section on the right hand side.

 

Now I assume you're based in or close to Vancouver.

Set AoA as far back as possible. This month that's May 1st 2016. As a search term choose %vancouver%. (Include the %% - it's a database thing.)

You can click on sales and zooms, but however interesting those are, for the moment you will be looking for views. More precisely the search terms with the least views (just click on it - maybe twice). Everything up to 99 views is a good subject to shoot. 100 views will only tell you the client did only look at the first page of the results.

If you click on the search term, you get to see what there's already there.

Now only go out and shoot if you can do better or at least as good. No strike that: do go out and shoot it, but only upload when your images as good or better.

- Learn how to judge that.

 

Also shoot what you have access to. Your child is an obvious subject. Trawl All of Alamy for what to shoot in the same way as with %vancouver%.

Sign releases.

Access can be things; buildings but also knowledge.

Being a local shooting locally means you can wait for the best opportunity. Like the best weather; the best season; the best light.

 

Maybe also apply with some of those microstock agencies. They do judge your images for quality and saleability. Alamy only judges the technical quality.

Do you use Instagram? If not start now.

Look for photo critique sites online.

 

Don't expect any income the first year. Coffee money would be nice.

However there's always that lottery aspect as well.

For that it's important that your images can be used commercially. So they should be model and or property released.

Canada is a special case when people photography is concerned. This is a overview of property and (commercial or editorial) photography.

 

Oh and your yellow tulip is a daffodil.

Captions and keywords are maybe at least as important as the images, because this is how your images can be seen in the first place. Not the exact good keyword: no view. No views: no sales. Here the wrong views will lead to a lower ranking. putting your images at the back of those 80.000 images that are daily added.

This is why you at first will be concentrating on subjects with less than 100 views.

 

good luck!

wim


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#35 Autumn Sky

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Posted A week ago

 

 

And this is the quality that earns him these $1000 a month.

 

 

 

yes, quite amazing isn't it!

 

Excellent advice wiskerke for Anna btw.  I'd add, because I know Vancouver well,  there are many spots to shoot stuff that has sales potential.  Granville Island and Market.  Kits beach has beautiful sunsets, Maritime Museum, Burrard Bridge.  Then over to Pacific Spirit; on a misty day that are plentiful in Vancouver you can make terrific rainforest shots.  Stanley Park has tons of spots that are not photographed that much, if you know where to go!  Or head over to Port Moody for some unique perspective of Mt Seymour or over to Buntzen.   Head up Grouse and there are some terrific photo-ops there, bear den, wood carvings etc.  Horseshoe Bay,   Point Atkinson/Lighthouse Park,  etc etc.   Aim for quality and uniqueness. That sells, not quantity/tons of boring shots that show same thing over and over but people keep uploading because "others have 1000s of images, so should I".


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#36 Robert Shantz

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Posted A week ago

Anna,

 

You may also want to check out Alamy's blog on Keith Morris  :   http://www.alamy.com...ng-stock-photos

 

And take a look at his portfolio and posts here on the forum.

 

I'll second Wim's comment about money received in the first year.  Payment isn't fast even if you're lucky enough get sales early on.  Typically the time from first viewing to actual payment is measured in months.  For certain seasonal photos, the delay can be longer.  Spring photos taken this year probably won't be used until next spring for print publications, which means they'll be looked at perhaps in October, maybe purchased in December, and payment received after it goes to press next April.

 

As to your goal of $500 - $700 per month.  Getting there won't be easy, but not impossible.  You will need to put some real effort into learning the business side  -- not just the photography part.  For some images, other agencies may be a better choice once you've developed the necessary skill.  And some of them may give you feedback on the salability of the images and not just the technical quality.

 

As in any business, keeping your costs under control is important.  You need good equipment, but not necessarily the best.  Most of Alamy's sales are editorial, and the print ( or web display ) doesn't require top quality.  That is, something like the Sony RX100 series will produce perfectly useable photos for most purposes.  Justifying a Canon 5d Mk IV (or the Nikon or other equivalent) is tough.  Since you've had a reasonable number accepted, you probably already have everything you need to get started. 

 

Good luck.

 

Robert


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#37 wiskerke

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Posted A week ago

+1 for getting inspiration from Keith Morris.

 

wim


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#38 Stockfotoart

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Posted A week ago

Hello I'm curious i'm gonna ask question How much photographer can make for a month what is the lowest and how much is the highest income,I am single mom and because i am sad to leave my kid to the baby sitter,if i can make like $500 to 700 a month i will focus on here.I do have an interview at a A&w restaurant that i applied and let say the income for fulltime is $1200 and my baby sitter is $950 she make money than i do and i stay away from my child i make nothing so if i can make better here?please help me 

 

I really hope that you are aware what it means to be an „exclusive stock photographer“ with one micro stock agency but then sell these images somewhere else as well!


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#39 Alex Ramsay

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Posted A week ago

Re mice - keep a cat


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#40 anna182016

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thank you for the new advice


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