why does almany say profile warning on my photo

[canonguy]

Hi,i am new to all this,i use a canon 6D,just bought a new sigma 150 - 600 mm f5 - 6.3 dg os hsm contemporary.

When i uploaded some photos it says profile warning on the little Alamy size checker,what does that mean.

[regen]

It probably means you have assigned the wrong profile. However your captioning and keywording will need considerable improvement if you are going to compete with the other 100 million pics on alamy. Research,research, research !

 

Regen

[Joseph Clemson]

A search on Google brings up several previous discussions by people who have encountered this. Alamy recommend you have the Adobe RGB colour profile embedded in your pictures. You need to look in your camera settings and see whether this is the case for you.

[spacecadet]

I've never wavered from sRGB and never had a profile warning even when I used the web uploader.

[Joseph Clemson]

I've never wavered from sRGB and never had a profile warning even when I used the web uploader.

 

The size checker mentioned is a third-party utility and so the warning doesn't crop up in the normal Alamy upload process.  

[canonguy]

A search on Google brings up several previous discussions by people who have encountered this. Alamy recommend you have the Adobe RGB colour profile embedded in your pictures. You need to look in your camera settings and see whether this is the case for you.

I have always used srgb & most pros i know use the same,ah well,thanks for your reply.

[canonguy]

It probably means you have assigned the wrong profile. However your captioning and keywording will need considerable improvement if you are going to compete with the other 100 million pics on alamy. Research,research, research !

 

Regen

Thank you,i will look into that.

[canonguy]

I've never wavered from sRGB and never had a profile warning even when I used the web uploader.

Well i have used sRGB for many years with no problem anywhere else.

[canonguy]

I really appreciate all your help on here,thank you.

[Ed Rooney]

 

I've never wavered from sRGB and never had a profile warning even when I used the web uploader.

Well i have used sRGB for many years with no problem anywhere else.

 

 

 

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[Chuck Nacke]

And I have never used sRGB, except when a site I am uploading to specifically

requests sRGB.  My Nikon DSLR's, Software, Screen and all support equipment

is set, if it can be set, to aRGB and has been that way for over a decade.

[Bill Brooks]

 

A search on Google brings up several previous discussions by people who have encountered this. Alamy recommend you have the Adobe RGB colour profile embedded in your pictures. You need to look in your camera settings and see whether this is the case for you.

I have always used srgb & most pros i know use the same,ah well,thanks for your reply.

 

 

 

Well Canonguy, I hope you and your professional friends will continue to use sRGB.

[canonguy]

That seems a bit of a sarcy remark.

[spacecadet]

That seems a bit of a sarcy remark.

My understanding is that there was a time when it made more difference than it does now with most images being seen on monitors and not paper. As you surmise supporters of aRGB are usually sure of the correctness of their choice. The rest of us are not necessarily so sure of ours but I see no necessity to change it.

I merely mentioned that my choice had never caused me to get a profile warning and was not advocating it. I have had 4 cameras with default sRGB out of the box. As long as your machinery and software all match you will not get any surprises.

 

In fact, although Alamy used to suggest ARGB if you had no preference, they no longer make any recommendation. It's not mentioned in the recent submission guidelines at all.

[canonguy]

I think i will just leave it at that.

[canonguy]

Fine

[spacecadet]

No reason per se to give up but you will have to sharpen up your act. I've certainly never sold a scenic such as yours which are rather generally keyworded. The few I have have been of named places, valleys, crags and so on. If there is some point of interest, fine, say so. But you need a much wider range of subjects- not to say more images. Look at the numbers under the names of the respondents to this thread, for a start. That's where you need to be aiming with a non-specialist collection. Thousands, not dozens.

You obviously have no problem with the technical end. Now sort out the rest.

[canonguy]

I don,t think i will bother,cheers.

[Matt Ashmore]

No need to give up, just put your back into it and do a little effort.

 

   

 

Some might call this simply a "gun". Fine by me and I bet those guys will keyword a LOT of images this way, in a day. But to me it's not a "gun" but a "Flak 28 / Bofors 40 mm gun, German World War Two anti-aircraft auto-cannon". In other words research, research, research. Taking the picture is just part of the job  You work for a PROFESSIONAL market. Don't take stock photography lightly!

 

Cheers,

Philippe

 

But it is a gun...  a very big gun... but still a gun! 

 

OP.. I think your pictures are good.. slightly better keywords would probably help as others have said if you are able to do so. Have you ever sold anything on Ebay? Keywords on Alamy are kind of the same as an item title on Ebay. On Ebay, you have to put as many words which accurately describe the item that you are trying to sell as possible into the item title in order to give the item the maximum chance of selling at the best possible price. For example if you are selling a 'coat' on Ebay, you would want to include as much detail as possible like the make, colour, style, size, if it's new, length, material, the season it's designed for, and so on. With Alamy, it works the same way only you put all these words into tags. You would want to describe as much whch is relevant about the picture in the tags. So this might include locations, makes, models, things in the scene.. But like on Ebay, if you include words which don't make sense, it can have the long-term effect on how well you can sell.

 

Don't get disheartened and give up.. you won't necessarily make a fortune (God knows I don't     .. but that's OK!) .. add pictures over time when you can and eventually some sales will likely come.

[canonguy]

I don,t need to sell on alamy,i do nicely with my studio stuff thanks.

[MDM]

 

 

My understanding is that there was a time when it made more difference than it does now with most images being seen on monitors and not paper. As you surmise supporters of aRGB are usually sure of the correctness of their choice. The rest of us are not necessarily so sure of ours but I see no necessity to change it.

I merely mentioned that my choice had never caused me to get a profile warning and was not advocating it. I have had 4 cameras with default sRGB out of the box. As long as your machinery and software all match you will not get any surprises.

 

In fact, although Alamy used to suggest ARGB if you had no preference, they no longer make any recommendation. It's not mentioned in the recent submission guidelines at all.

 

 

The point in not using sRGB is that it is a tiny color space designed for an ancient version of Windows. True you will probably never notice any difference between AdobeRGB and sRGB if you never view your images on a wide gamut monitor or you never print out your own images. But why throw all this colour information away? It doesn’t add to the file size so it makes absolutely no sense to throw it away.

 

What a lot of photographers don’t realise is that the colour space you set in the camera is totally irrelevant if shooting raw. This only matters if shooting JPEG. I know there are (lots of) pros who shoot JPEGS only but hopefully they are shooting in AdobeRGB. Shooting JPEGS only in sRGB on the camera is plain silly - what is the point in paying for cameras with amazing sensors and dumping most of the colour info at the shooting stage? I wonder if the OP shoots JPEGs only in sRGB.

 

You may not realise this but Lightroom uses a vast colour work space close to ProPhoto behind the scenes. It is only at the point of the raw conversion and exporting or opening the file that you set your image as sRGB, AdobeRGB (or ProPhoto). You won’t notice this of course although the soft proofing feature of Lightroom will indicate what you are losing in the conversion.

 

The most knowledgeable people (e.g. Jeff Schewe) advocate using ProPhoto in fact but images tagged ProPhoto may look strange in non-color-managed environments. That is why I use AdobeRGB but I would never convert from raw directly to sRGB and do work on that file in Photoshop.

 

But none of this will be visible on Alamy and, if recent rumour is correct, Alamy now removes the color profile on upload in any case. I don’t know if this is correct - somebody posted a response recently from Alamy which claimed this to be true. However, if you value your work above and beyond Alamy, then convert to AdobeRGB if working outside of Lightroom.

[spacecadet]

So do you say I should be exporting from LR as ARGB rather than s? Alamy no longer seems to mind, and will my images look different?

BTW the OP is long gone. I didn't assert that my understanding was correct, just said what  it was. I was trying to explain diplomatically a bit of perceived sarcasm from another poster.

[MDM]

So do you say I should be exporting from LR as ARGB rather than s? Alamy no longer seems to mind, and will my images look different?

BTW the OP is long gone. I didn't assert that my understanding was correct, just said what  it was. I was trying to explain diplomatically a bit of perceived sarcasm from another poster.

It depends on your workflow, If you are only exporting for Alamy and doing no work on the image outside of Lightroom, then it would appear to be irrelevant if the recent post that I recall seeing but have not got a clue where is true. Previously the Alamy guidance did say use aRGB but that no longer appears to be the case as somebody else said.

 

I take a lot of my images for further editing into Photoshop and save them as PSDs so I would never convert as sRGB. I also work on a wide gamut monitor. These are getting a lot cheaper and becoming a lot more common at the prosumer and pro end of things.

 

EDIT: Actually I don't know if it is irrelevant what colour space the JPEG is in when submitted as I don't know if discarding the profile actually discards the colours in the image. It probably depends on how this is done - beyond my expertise this one. I'm sure there is an experiment to be done when time allows.

[spacecadet]

 

So do you say I should be exporting from LR as ARGB rather than s? Alamy no longer seems to mind, and will my images look different?

BTW the OP is long gone. I didn't assert that my understanding was correct, just said what  it was. I was trying to explain diplomatically a bit of perceived sarcasm from another poster.

It depends on your workflow, If you are only exporting for Alamy and doing no work on the image outside of Lightroom, then it would appear to be irrelevant if the recent post that I recall seeing but have not got a clue where is true. Previously the Alamy guidance did say use aRGB but that no longer appears to be the case as somebody else said.

 

I take a lot of my images for further editing into Photoshop and save them as PSDs so I would never convert as sRGB. I also work on a wide gamut monitor. These are getting a lot cheaper and becoming a lot more common at the prosumer and pro end of things.

 

EDIT: Actually I don't know if it is irrelevant what colour space the JPEG is in when submitted as I don't know if discarding the profile actually discards the colours in the image. It probably depends on how this is done - beyond my expertise this one. I'm sure there is an experiment to be done when time allows.

 

Thanks for the tip. BTW I think I've just discovered why my PS images can end up a bit flat- I've discovered I'm exporting from LR to PS as Pro Photo, then saving as sRGB jpeg. I only use it for home-made greetings cards with captions but it sounds awful now. Could that do it?

Edit: it's more than a tip. It's a tutorial. Thankyou.

[MDM]

 

 

So do you say I should be exporting from LR as ARGB rather than s? Alamy no longer seems to mind, and will my images look different?

BTW the OP is long gone. I didn't assert that my understanding was correct, just said what  it was. I was trying to explain diplomatically a bit of perceived sarcasm from another poster.

It depends on your workflow, If you are only exporting for Alamy and doing no work on the image outside of Lightroom, then it would appear to be irrelevant if the recent post that I recall seeing but have not got a clue where is true. Previously the Alamy guidance did say use aRGB but that no longer appears to be the case as somebody else said.

 

I take a lot of my images for further editing into Photoshop and save them as PSDs so I would never convert as sRGB. I also work on a wide gamut monitor. These are getting a lot cheaper and becoming a lot more common at the prosumer and pro end of things.

 

EDIT: Actually I don't know if it is irrelevant what colour space the JPEG is in when submitted as I don't know if discarding the profile actually discards the colours in the image. It probably depends on how this is done - beyond my expertise this one. I'm sure there is an experiment to be done when time allows.

 

Thanks for the tip. BTW I think I've just discovered why my PS images can end up a bit flat- I've discovered I'm exporting from LR to PS as Pro Photo, then saving as sRGB jpeg. I only use it for home-made greetings cards with captions but it sounds awful now. Could that do it?

Edit: it's more than a tip. It's a tutorial. Thankyou.

 

Glad to help. I don't know about your greeting cards as there are too many variables including how you are printing them or having them printed. As a rule you should generally have your color work space in Photoshop set to the same space as you are exporting to and have preserve embedded profiles on in PS color settings for consistency.