Marb Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 2 hours ago, GS-Images said: No offence, but haven't we been around in circles about this several times now? You have, if I remember correctly, only just started uploading exclusively to Alamy, and used to use Microstock too for the same images. You need to wait MONTHS. Anyway, as for myself - I still have ZERO sales for June. I am aware of news sales but they are not showing up yet, and that's expected and not a problem, but in nearly a whole month it is unheard of for me to get zero these days. All my extra work lately doing Alamy 24/7 and still ending up with lower view numbers that I had before the new search engine messed everything up, is making me feel quite demotivated again. I just hope that this is the expected dip due to the search engine issues, and that usages have been happening in the last 2 months that will soon start to show up on my account. Geoff. Well Geoff your images are very marketable so not sure why they are not selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KODAKovic Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Well, i had zero sales in June but it's my fault actually. I noticed many times an image being viewed on alamy and bought on Getty for cents in the same day need to be smarter on which images where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Still absolutely zero sales for exclusive content. July is proving horrendous across all sites for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultanpepa Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 No sales so far in Aug. Slow month. Mid summer seems to have this effect for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Nothing yet in August. Zooms are pretty good, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 In reverse...no sales and CTR's gone underground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokie Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 sale on the first so I got excited it was going to be a good month, but no sales since then. Historically, August is my 5th best month in terms of sales. So i'm expecting about 12 to 15 sales this month. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just two genuine looking PUs so far, today negated by a refund of a July sale. Early days though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Terrible, just terrible. A lot of uploads results in 2 month sales drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, arterra said: What do you expect if you keep uploading typical microstock stuff to an editorial agency. You've been given advice, why not following it instead of keep moaning. Cheers, Philippe I think you will find the new uploading has been exclusive to Alamy, and not the usual microstock stuff I upload to other sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 hour ago, arterra said: You mean those? Cheers, Philippe 1 hour ago, arterra said: You mean those? Cheers, Philippe 1 hour ago, arterra said: What do you expect if you keep uploading typical microstock stuff to an editorial agency. You've been given advice, why not following it instead of keep moaning. Cheers, Philippe I think you will find the new uploading has been exclusive to Alamy, and not the usual microstock stuff I upload to other sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 No different than this type of thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 There's a world of difference. Chicken-of-the-woods / crab-of-the-woods / sulphur polypore / sulphur shelf (Laetiporus sulphureus) growing on tree stump in forest in summer A children's handmade paper balloon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Yates Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, spacecadet said: There's a world of difference. Chicken-of-the-woods / crab-of-the-woods / sulphur polypore / sulphur shelf (Laetiporus sulphureus) growing on tree stump in forest in summer A children's handmade paper balloon. Maybe if your picture had included the child making the paper balloon.????? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, JeffGreenberg said: Here's an inspirational suggestion!!! Rather than personally attack others' work, why not find examples in their work that stand out as... ESPECIALLY SALABLE???!!!!! I agree Jeff. 30 years ago I was a HND photo student and covered editorial, particularly environmental portraiture so I do understand editorial and if you look around you will find that. From the examples of mine he has pulled out (the lesser examples of editorial) I was just pointing out that his images of eg,, a plate fungus, a common sparrow, rock texture, a morehen etc etc are no more editorial and more suited to microstock. It's a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. I have taken on board the advice regarding editorial images and have since only uploaded those type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Philippe is standing up for the profession but sometimes good advice appears to fall on deaf ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 36 minutes ago, arterra said: Marb, with all respect, but I have the feeling you haven't got the slightest idea what "editorial" means determination guide book about mushrooms article about edible mushrooms whatever article about walking in the woods in autumn children magazines / websites about autumn / forests / trees garden magazines brochures / information panels in nature reserves school books need I continue? Anyway Marb, don't want to be rude, but my kind of pictures sell daily. Yours don't. So, no need to teach me a lesson. Cheers, Philippe Well yes, you will be selling more images here with 45K + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 hours ago, LawrensonPhoto said: I think he needs more of these: and less of these: Why would the B/W image not be saleable ? Industrial Vintage Historic I could say the same for an image as generic as this for instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I feel I am being baited a little here and unfairly treated (as well as negatives left against my profile and posts) as clearly contributors are using examples of my work to illustrate what apparently isn't editorial,when they are as guilty of the same offence. I have already said that I have taken on board (and very grateful for the advice too) the fact that this site is mainly editorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I have loads of brick varied background images, some grungy and some painted etc but they are microstock. Any image can be used for any article. It just depends what they want. Someone wants a pic of an, rusty old boiler for instance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, geogphotos said: Could illustrate: plant succession - pioneer species such as mosses - soil formation - biotic weathering physical/mechanical weathering from the weather - heating, cooling, freeze/thaw bricklaying techniques building materials in different localities percolation of water through joints and bedding planes ( as if this was a sedimentary rock) - identify and explain the main channels of flow and dead-ends ( like a maze) different colour bricks from different coloured clay Thanks, at last someone who sees it from my perspective. Again, I do know about the concept of editorial. We just didn't have to deal with keywords when I was at college using medium format film cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 4 hours ago, arterra said: Marb, we're trying to help you and explaining WHY you don't sell but you're stone-deaf and utterly stubborn. Believe me, you don't have a clue what editorial pictures look like. For 99% of my pictures I can tell you IMMEDIATELY which customers could buy my pictures and for what purpose (see my post of the mushroom above). And I can do the same for Paul's "damp brick wall" image: DIY brochures DIY magazines articles about how to control damp walls websites for water damage specialists brochures and websites for manufacturers of mould removing / preventing products need I continue? Now why don't you try to do the same with the typical microstock examples I showed you? And "vintage", "historical" "industrial" aren't exactly what I would call "clients". You have to come up with better answers than that Cheers and good luck, Philippe With all respect the reason you sell more images than myself is because you have a LOT more than I do. About 45 x more. Please don't patronise me as if you are the great oracle on Photography. "Now why don't you try to do the same with the typical microstock examples I showed you? And "vintage", "historical" "industrial" aren't exactly what I would call "clients". You have to come up with better answers than that" Vintage steam engine articles Articles on restoration Articles on rust Articles on abandoned industrial buildings etc..etc..etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Philippe is talking about RPI, not just volume, as you well know. Maybe not "the great", but certainly "an" oracle. It would help you to appreciate the difference between good advice, with examples, and patronisation. Advice is given freely here, not least by Philippe. It's up to you if you take it, of course. But to have it apparently ignored is not encouraging to the giver . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, GS-Images said: Yet another time when I need the PM facility back.(and it would be a POSITIVE private message, by the way). What I will say to Marb is that I don't agree with everything that's been posted by others. I may have been frustrated that you kept praising Microstock in the past and didn't seem to take much notice of many comments regarding being exclusive with Alamy, but I think you are listening now and are taking advice. What's more, you're polite about your point of view, which not everyone is. As for what sells, what's editorial and what isn't, I'm never honestly sure. Without meaning any disrespect to anyone else, I have been here since 2010 and I do have some idea what I'm doing, yet I have seen so many varied sales. It is more about keywording and captioning than the photo. One point about the number of images - Until the search engine changes, the monthly "how was your month" threads showed that I used to license a higher quantity on images per number of images than all but about one other. That went on for many months. That's without really being sure what type of image is best for editorial. It is with good keywording though and keeping up to date on what's topical. Geoff. Thanks Geoff, I was starting to doubt myself but sadly all too often forums or "communities" tend to have cliques of people who seem to offer "help" or "advice" delivered with a sardonic, facetious and sometimes downright rude tone applauded by each other. Anyway, I now fully understand the way Alamy works so thanks to all for clarifying that. Like you said Geoff, I think captioning and keywording (with good images of course) are the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Marb said: all too often forums or "communities" tend to have cliques of people who seem to offer "help" or "advice" delivered with a sardonic, facetious and sometimes downright rude tone applauded by each other. This is not one of those, as a more diffident approach would have confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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