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Hello there!

 

Let me apologize in advance in case my question has been asked and answered before. I've searched the forums and elsewhere but did not find the answer.

 

On Alamy model release form the have a placeholder for a monetary value.  The presence of the field confuses me.  What does this mean? If the sales of the picture reach the stated amount of money, I need a new release from the model if I want to continue to sell?

 

What is a typical amount? What should I put in there? 

 

 

Many thanks for your insights.

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There are other generic generally accepted releases that do not mention an amount but "consideration herein acknowledged as received". As I understand it doesn't have to be a (small) amount but can be anything from a photo print to a beer or whatever. If using the Alamy form one could perhaps enter XXX to the value of.

But I am using a generic form - if I need it. But most of my photos are RM without the release. I hate to ask people to sign the release as I feel obligated to explain that the photos can be used for a variety of purposes.

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When I first started here, I asked this question of MS (remember them?! ;) ).  I asked what the situation would be for family members or friends who had (verbally) agreed to pose without recompense.  They said:

 

"Yes you can either add "£0.00" or just NA in the field."

 

EDIT: There is no 'typical' amount: it's whatever you and the model have agreed to.  A simple contract between you and them.

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I try to provide the model with a photo, whether it is a print, or a low res watermarked image that I email to them. My understanding is that is classed as "consideration" and I make a note on the model release as to what they've been given and when. 

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When I model for my own photos I always charge myself a fee of £1m. Because I'm worth it.

 

So far I've never refused to pay up.

 

Alan

 

Um... can I model for you? I'll only charge 500,000. (Sorry no "pound" symbol on my silly american english type keyboard, and I'm too lazy to look up the ASCII code.) :-)

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When I model for my own photos I always charge myself a fee of £1m. Because I'm worth it.

 

So far I've never refused to pay up.

 

Alan

 

Um... can I model for you? I'll only charge 500,000. (Sorry no "pound" symbol on my silly american english type keyboard, and I'm too lazy to look up the ASCII code.) :-)

 

We photographers are our own worst enemies.  Always driving prices down.  Next thing will be offers to do it for a mere £100,000.  How much lower can it go?

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When I model for my own photos I always charge myself a fee of £1m. Because I'm worth it.

 

So far I've never refused to pay up.

 

Alan

 

Um... can I model for you? I'll only charge 500,000. (Sorry no "pound" symbol on my silly american english type keyboard, and I'm too lazy to look up the ASCII code.) :-)

 

We photographers are our own worst enemies.  Always driving prices down.  Next thing will be offers to do it for a mere £100,000.  How much lower can it go?

 

 

Precisely. At least my policy keeps prices high.

 

Alan

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When I model for my own photos I always charge myself a fee of £1m. Because I'm worth it.

 

So far I've never refused to pay up.

 

Alan

 

Um... can I model for you? I'll only charge 500,000. (Sorry no "pound" symbol on my silly american english type keyboard, and I'm too lazy to look up the ASCII code.) :-)

 

We photographers are our own worst enemies.  Always driving prices down.  Next thing will be offers to do it for a mere £100,000.  How much lower can it go?

 

 

Precisely. At least my policy keeps prices high.

 

Alan

 

 

Complicates accounts and income tax form  ;)

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Long time ago now, but when I used to work in construction and we needed to a make a legal contract without any real monetary value, the words we used were something like " --- in consideration to the value of one pound (£1) receipt of which is hereby acknowledged"

 

So all my MR's include £1.  In fact all my MR's are family members and if I were working with a model I would expect to negotiate a percentage of the net value of any sales.

 

I do not think £0.00 works, no pounds is surely not consideration.

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I consider monetary payments/amounts only when I use professional models, or models whom I do not know well, but who are posing for my pictures specially. These are mostly non-family, non-friend models. The amount for professional models is just as per the mutually accepted sum. It can range from $50 to $300 per shoot (that's all I can afford,, and that makes me exclude more expensive models). Small-size image samples (1500 px at 72 dpi) are also provided on a disk, under a strict no-further-forward-sale agreement. No monetary consideration for my casual models (family/friends). Of course, for all model-based shoots, all set/location, travel or boarding.lodging expenses HAVE to be mine. I often shoot with student groups. And, the cost of a weekend outing is all it takes. If I shoot with 5 such kids and the weekend outing costs about $500 (excluding my personal expenses), the amount I fill for each model obviously becomes 500/5 = $100. Cheers.

Kumar, India

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When I model for my own photos I always charge myself a fee of £1m. Because I'm worth it.

 

So far I've never refused to pay up.

 

Alan

 

 

Why don't you start charging yourself £10,000,000 and start pushing prices up for all to benefit? ;)

 

Allan

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