Bill Plunkett Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I have contributed here only a little, then had some health issues that kept me away for some time but I am slowly coming back. My question is about valid releases. Will Alamy accept other releases besides the ones on the resources page? Further, I had a very good friend (just passed away) named Rich Halperin who was an attorney, NANPA Board Member and Past President (as am I except for the attorney part). He contributed greatly to the photographer's rights issues and was emphatic that model/property releases DO NOT require an exchange of "valuable consideration" - they ARE NOT contracts, they are releases. So my question is, will Alamy accept my custom written release that does not include an exchange of "valuable consideration". Some background if interested. I rarely do planned photo shoots with professional models. I am a nature/landscape photographer and need releases only occasionally when I find someone doing something interesting or a piece of private property that would just make a nice photograph - which includes livestock and other agricultural items, especially horses. So I really don't (can't) give folks money on such a speculative shot. I have in the past occasionally offered a print of the person or property as a thank you but almost never actual cash. Interestingly, I am finishing up a unique (for me anyway) project - I have volunteered my time at a local "Equestrian Assisted Activities and Therapy" center and donated my time to do the photography for a college level text book on the subject. My only "payment" was I retained the copyright on all the images and that model/property releases would be provided. I believe there are some valuable stock images in the batch of over 6,000 images but I want to make sure I have releases that Alamy will except. All help is greatly appreciated, Bill Plunkett Longview Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I can't answer your question fully but I have always understood that the "valuable consideration" does not have to be a cash exchange, it can be something as simple as giving them access to a photo or photos from the shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'm sure you mean 'releases Alamy will accept' but in any case you can submit unreleased images as RM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Bill, this would be a question that would be better to ask Alamy themselves. They'll get back to you with the facts: memberservices@alamy.com Hope you're feeling better. Your images look good. Edo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Limb Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Bill, I totally agree and it is a phrase I often use myself with anyone who I ask to sign 'This is not a contact - it is a release to say you fully understand that the images may be used' as for value I use an iPad app and have created a release that give the payment as £1.00 - I guess it could be $1.00 - then they have been paid - end of issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 On several occasions I've used family members as models. I just put N/A in the Consideration box. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Plunkett Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Matt, you mentioned a iPad app. I use Easy Release - because it is actually easy to use and you can create your own text. Then the model can digitally sign the release, I can take a photo of them and it is placed in the release, then a copy emailed to me and the model. App is very nicely done, and since I always have my iPad or iPhone with me, I always have a release ready. I also like the idea of just putting N/A in the consideration box... thanks everyone, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nacke Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Bill, I can not speak for Alamy on their policy on releases. I will tell you that I've done corporate location photography for annual reports and advertising, using company employees and customers for over three decades and at the start of everyday before a location shoot I would get $20 or $30 one dollar bills and each person signing a release or appearing in a photograph received $1.00 and according to the large legal departments of these Fortune 500 corporations that constituted a binding model release. While I have almost exclusively used Alamy model releases on images that I've submitted to Alamy there are two pictures of teenagers that I did in the 80's and had my own American Association of Media Professionals (ASMP) and Alamy had no problem with the releases. Check with Alamy. Chuck (Still the original Chuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I've used easy release and releases that say the consideration is a photograph. Submit them to Alamy and see if they are accepted. You should be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 http://www.simslaw.com/model/model_releases.htm#Contract_Concerns http://releases.uslegal.com/requirements-for-a-valid-release/consideration/ Any agreement that is deemed one sided can much more easily be struck down in court. A MR with no consideration, even just a photo which in itself does have great value, is far too one-sided to be tested in a court in many jurisdictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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