Dado The Dude

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You've got 100,000 pictures on your harddisk .....????
Here's what you have to do: spend the next couple of months keywording till you see blue, roots start growing from your bum into your office chair and your legs fall off.
Contact Alamy how to provide the keywords in an excel file (to avoid having to do the "Manage your images" part afterwards) and once you have prepared several thousand pictures, send the whole lot on a hard disk.
I started by submitting them 12,000 pictures at once.

Cheers and good luck,
Philippe

 

HARD WORK

spotlights the

CHARACTER

of people: 

_______________________

some turn up

their sleeves

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some turn up

their noses

_______________________

some don't

turn up at all

 

Quote by Sam Ewing

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Here's what you have to do: spend the next couple of months keywording till you see blue, roots start growing from your bum into your office chair and your legs fall off.

 

 

This reminds me my 2014...  :(  ;)

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I’m in a similar situation as Dado the Dude: been with Alamy for one year and have over 700 images online. My one and only sale was withdrawn, so the total is zero.

However, my CTR is currently 0.72 overall and 1.65 for the last month – higher than the Alamy average. My question is, do those of you who sell regularly have CTRs that are higher still? Is there any relation at all between CTR and sales? It would be easier to understand the lack (total absence) of sales if there were also no clicks.
 

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Have all the images ready keyworded and captioned on your hard drive. (Drives!)

 

Then, without wanting to get this thread locked, dont forget the eggs and baskets rule.

 

groetjes, 

 

Richard

 

BTW I think its Zandvoort, but Zandvoort isn;t in the keywords. And the country needs to be corrected from Netherlads. Although the lads from Nether does conjure up some interesting idea's. ;)

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I’m in a similar situation as Dado the Dude: been with Alamy for one year and have over 700 images online. My one and only sale was withdrawn, so the total is zero.

 

However, my CTR is currently 0.72 overall and 1.65 for the last month – higher than the Alamy average. My question is, do those of you who sell regularly have CTRs that are higher still? Is there any relation at all between CTR and sales? It would be easier to understand the lack (total absence) of sales if there were also no clicks.

CTR's are a mystery to all ;) But here are my two cents. I truly believe it is far more important to have a steady CTR which is constantly slightly above Alamy's average than one that looks like a roller coaster and jumps from 0 to 14.29 and back to 0.

 

One of my pseudonyms (67 images, no sales so far) has for the moment a CTR of 14.29. The picture which was recently zoomed, is of an oil tanker.

When I look for "oil tanker" I see 8,553 images (96 pages with 90 pictures each). I couldn't find this pseudonym's picture within the first five pages, BUT ................ I found several "oil tanker" pictures of my main pseudonym (14761 images, daily sales)  - which has a CONSTANT (average) CTR of only 0.55 - already on page two.

 

So, can't say that high CTR numbers impress me ;)

There's a little and very reliable trick to know where you really stand: just look for one of your ordinary pictures (one of which there are thousands of competing images) and see on which page yours lands. Not within the first three to five pages? Well, there you have a problem :mellow: In that case, your best technique would be to fill in the gaps (less competition >> better visibility).

 

Cheers,

Philippe

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I’m in a similar situation as Dado the Dude: been with Alamy for one year and have over 700 images online. My one and only sale was withdrawn, so the total is zero.

However, my CTR is currently 0.72 overall and 1.65 for the last month – higher than the Alamy average. My question is, do those of you who sell regularly have CTRs that are higher still? Is there any relation at all between CTR and sales? It would be easier to understand the lack (total absence) of sales if there were also no clicks.

 

I don't think there is a correlation between CTR and sales but there is a correlation between zooms and sales. I know some togs will jump down my throat saying most of their sales haven't been zoomed but that is not true in my experience. Sometimes you have to look back a long way to find the zooms that have turned into sales. I would say about 50% of my sales were zoomed first. Obviously this wouldn't hold true for those selling lots of live news though.

 

Pearl

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 I would say about 50% of my sales were zoomed first. 

 

That's good to know Pearl.  I was wondering what percentage of zooms have ended up as sales.  If zooms are so important to CTR, I'm curious how predictive they are of sales.  I haven't sold that many yet, so it's hard for me to tell.  But for my main pseudo, none of the zooms in the past year translated into sales.  My my other pseudo, about 25% of the zooms turned into sales.  The rest of my sales were never zoomed.

 

I'm also curious how the relationship between zooms, views and CTR works if your work is on distributor's web sites.  Would we know if our images are viewed or zoomed (if they have zooming) on those sites?

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I only have 10 images up so far and am happy to wait for my retirement while my portfolio builds. All of my many 1000's of older images were pre DSLR compact camera so are useless for Alamy's quality control although other sites will take them.  This summer I will just get out there on my travels with my new cameras and start to build a collection all over again.

 

 -  and from your avatar it seems you have quite a good, long time to build that portfolio  :)

 

You could consider the reportage route on Alamy for older suitable images of quality.

 

Niels

 

 

There is an archival route - where the photos are marked archival indicating to buyers that they may not be to current Alamy standards. From memory, and I may be wrong, you have to have a reasonable track record with Alamy before they allow you to join, but there's no reason why you shouldn't achieve that.

 

I have found that old, even black and white, images have a niche position with the most unusual uses - for example calendars for industrial shots. I was recently chuffed ;)  to see a 1960s steam loco shot being zoomed, the only one out of over a 1000 views, and my CTR is very average. So there you go, there's a great opportunity if you have genuine old shots of reasonable quality.

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That reminds me, must add fragaria (and I think vesca for the wild white strawberry?) to one of mine.

.  For example DBJCYY is labelled 'wild strawberries'. 
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FWIW, 75% of my sales have been zoomed.

Just under half within the year for me.

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Hi everyone, I just arrived on Alamy

Starts with about 300 files and I will not stop upload until I see my first sale

I would like to ask if you, who have been here for quite some time sell ​​your files on alamy with exclusivity?

I upload the same files that i sell in other micro stock agencies. Will this decrease my sales?

 

Thanks all

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Hi everyone, I just arrived on Alamy

Starts with about 300 files and I will not stop upload until I see my first sale

I would like to ask if you, who have been here for quite some time sell ​​your files on alamy with exclusivity?

I upload the same files that i sell in other micro stock agencies. Will this decrease my sales?

 

Thanks all

 

Alamy is not a micro site.  There is no point in selling your images here if you are basically selling the same image for next to nothing at a micro.  Images sold here should not be on micro.  Why would a buyer pay more here if they can get it cheaper elsewhere?

 

Jill

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Hi everyone, I just arrived on Alamy

Starts with about 300 files and I will not stop upload until I see my first sale

I would like to ask if you, who have been here for quite some time sell ​​your files on alamy with exclusivity?

I upload the same files that i sell in other micro stock agencies. Will this decrease my sales?

 

Thanks all

I did a GIS on one of your images and, guess what, it popped up on SS. Why would I pay Alamy's price?

Do the rest of us a favour and don' t have the same images on both sites.

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Please don't hijack someone else's (old) thread but start a new one.

 

Cheers,

Philippe

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Alamy has more than 50 million images, you have 207. In other words, you're merely a needle in the haystack.

 

Add a zero to the end of your figure and you should start to see some sales.

 

Alan

 

It's over 100 million now. Any bets on how long it will take to get to 200 million?

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Hi everyone, I just arrived on Alamy

Starts with about 300 files and I will not stop upload until I see my first sale

I would like to ask if you, who have been here for quite some time sell ​​your files on alamy with exclusivity?

I upload the same files that i sell in other micro stock agencies. Will this decrease my sales?

 

Thanks all

 

Alamy is not a micro site.  There is no point in selling your images here if you are basically selling the same image for next to nothing at a micro.  Images sold here should not be on micro.  Why would a buyer pay more here if they can get it cheaper elsewhere?

 

Jill

 

 

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Hi everyone, I just arrived on Alamy

Starts with about 300 files and I will not stop upload until I see my first sale

I would like to ask if you, who have been here for quite some time sell ​​your files on alamy with exclusivity?

I upload the same files that i sell in other micro stock agencies. Will this decrease my sales?

 

Thanks all

I did a GIS on one of your images and, guess what, it popped up on SS. Why would I pay Alamy's price?

Do the rest of us a favour and don' t have the same images on both sites.

 

 

Thanks for the advice

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After the upgrade of the upload/key wording system, sales pretty much vanished for me. I am 2/3 from finishing assigning categories and reviewing tags. Nothing has come out of the extra effort. 

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After the upgrade of the upload/key wording system, sales pretty much vanished for me. I am 2/3 from finishing assigning categories and reviewing tags. Nothing has come out of the extra effort. 

 

I did a random search for one of your images:  natural history books.  You are on page 1 of 175 third row, so you are getting good placement.

 

Jill

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After the upgrade of the upload/key wording system, sales pretty much vanished for me. I am 2/3 from finishing assigning categories and reviewing tags. Nothing has come out of the extra effort. 

 

I did a random search for one of your images:  natural history books.  You are on page 1 of 175 third row, so you are getting good placement.

 

Jill

 

 

 

 

Thanks. I kinda know that but still no sales for a while. 

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Well maybe I'm not a star but with 512 photos in my portfolio no sell in more than one year.Below smaller agencies. I started a few year ago with a reasonable sales (not a lot). I upload regular. Sometimes I think some click in the system it doesn't work good for me. Some feedback? Have a good time!

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Well maybe I'm not a star but with 512 photos in my portfolio no sell in more than one year.Below smaller agencies. I started a few year ago with a reasonable sales (not a lot). I upload regular. Sometimes I think some click in the system it doesn't work good for me. Some feedback? Have a good time!

I like your images, but did a reverse google image search on a handful and found they were also available on microstock sites.  The majority of customers will do the same.  Why would they buy the images here if they can get the same image much cheaper elsewhere?

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Well maybe I'm not a star but with 512 photos in my portfolio no sell in more than one year.Below smaller agencies. I started a few year ago with a reasonable sales (not a lot). I upload regular. Sometimes I think some click in the system it doesn't work good for me. Some feedback? Have a good time!

I like your images, but did a reverse google image search on a handful and found they were also available on microstock sites.  The majority of customers will do the same.  Why would they buy the images here if they can get the same image much cheaper elsewhere?

 

I see what you mean Kay... so with that thought only the cheapest agency will survive in the jungle. Anyway your feedback is very interesting. I take note.

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Well maybe I'm not a star but with 512 photos in my portfolio no sell in more than one year.Below smaller agencies. I started a few year ago with a reasonable sales (not a lot). I upload regular. Sometimes I think some click in the system it doesn't work good for me. Some feedback? Have a good time!

I like your images, but did a reverse google image search on a handful and found they were also available on microstock sites.  The majority of customers will do the same.  Why would they buy the images here if they can get the same image much cheaper elsewhere?

 

I see what you mean Kay... so with that thought only the cheapest agency will survive in the jungle. Anyway your feedback is very interesting. I take note.

 

 

No, just don't make your images available for peanuts. If the client really needs that particular image, he'll pay the price. But - of course - if you first smash in your own windows, then you shouldn't complain here that sales suck.

 

Cheers,

Philippe

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