Rolf Adlercreutz Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Country: Worldwide Usage: Editorial Media: Editorial website Placement: Single Placement Image Size: up to full area Start: 01 March 2015 End: 01 March 2018 Editorial web use, multiple placement; rights granted in line with customer agreement which may vary from invoice details above. $ 10.00 I just had this sale come up. Not RF, not Novel Use, not News-paper scheme, but regular RM. For 10 USD!!! Of which Alamy gets to keep half. I'm sorry, but I have a really hard time seeing the business sense in this. Anybody else having anything similar? Rolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Isn't website use up to five years supposed to be $45 for both RF and RM images? These must have been part of a package deal. P.S. I haven't had a sale show up since Feb. 9th despite loads of zooms, so even $10 sales might start looking good soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Smacks of being desperate for sales at any price? I can sort of relate to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Smacks of being desperate for sales at any price? I can sort of relate to that Yes, I'm not quite sure what happened to my "Top 500" status. Pride cometh before a fall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 My comment was aimed at Alamy, not you John. I am desperately trying to work out how to get out of the mass market and offer something that is seen to actually have some value. I feel generic stock photographers are similar to UK dairy farmers where supermarkets are paying less for milk than the cost of production ... But we don't get any grants from the equivalent of a EU Common Agricultural Policy I too need to diversify and/or change tack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I have had a few of those $10 ones in the past year too. I don't even sell a 4x6 snapshot for $10.00,LOL.... L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I suggest we put a 'tip jar' and Paypal link to all of our images available on agency sites! Anyone that licenses our images..if they really love it,can chip in some extra money without a commission being taken! If it works for blogs.... L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I had one for $10 and one for $8 back in the fall. Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I suggest we put a 'tip jar' and Paypal link to all of our images available on agency sites! Anyone that licenses our images..if they really love it,can chip in some extra money without a commission being taken! If it works for blogs.... L A virtual "tip jar" -- what an awesome idea. Welcome to the new online economy, where begging gains a whole new status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie5 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Since stock photos have become a commodity maybe we can convince the Goverment to subsidize us. They do it for corn, soybeans, and sugar. I've had four of those low dollar sales in the last two months. The low prices plus the new contract clauses are making this a futile endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arletta Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 P.S. I haven't had a sale show up since Feb. 9th despite loads of zooms, so even $10 sales might start looking good soon. Don't you even say that!!! Joking, but still more sad than funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin McAbee Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Just had one for $180, I like that range better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stipe Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Same kind of sale pop up in my sales account this morning. 10$ only! Not happy, honestly! Country: WorldwideUsage: EditorialMedia: Editorial websitePlacement: Single PlacementImage Size: up to full areaStart: 01 March 2015End: 01 March 2018Editorial web use, multiple placement; rights granted in line with customer agreement which may vary from invoice details above. And here's the photo: http://www.mapquest.com/travel/articles/san-francisco-neighborhood-guide-21141235 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 P.S. I haven't had a sale show up since Feb. 9th despite loads of zooms, so even $10 sales might start looking good soon. Don't you even say that!!! Joking, but still more sad than funny... You're right of course. Truthfully, I've had very few sales in the 8$ to $10 price range. It looks as if this buyer might have leased a lot of images. Hence the big discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 There is an upside of course. A $10 sale will help to improve your rank, which will help your pics to be seen in the future and generate more sales. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 If that is the case it might almost be worth buying a few oneself for "blog" use to raise ranking! There is an upside of course. A $10 sale will help to improve your rank, which will help your pics to be seen in the future and generate more sales. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertSnapper Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Often these sort of prices are for images that end up in editorial online slideshows. A market that didn't exist many years ago (when we all bought paper editions (with less images in), before internet). Think of them as extras, on top of the regular magazine/books/papers sales etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Same kind of sale pop up in my sales account this morning. 10$ only! Not happy, honestly! Country: Worldwide Usage: Editorial Media: Editorial website Placement: Single Placement Image Size: up to full area Start: 01 March 2015 End: 01 March 2018 Editorial web use, multiple placement; rights granted in line with customer agreement which may vary from invoice details above. And here's the photo: http://www.mapquest.com/travel/articles/san-francisco-neighborhood-guide-21141235 Yes I had a couple of those. Some of which I could trace to this same client. Disturbing detail: they are in fact 1600x1050 px with no metadata at all. The original Alamy ref # is sometimes retained. On the display page there is a copyright Alamy overlay. Right clicking is disabled, but I have found one of mine nicked from these pages and used unaltered at the full 600x1050. For more uses, Google: alamy site:www.mapquest.com (sorry no link because Google insists using Google.ES on this machine) wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nacke Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 When I started with Alamy (2005) my average license was $400.00 + that went down along with the global economy and recently I have seen it rising, sort of like an ocean tide. Over the years I've had many small licenses (under $50.00) and partially thanks to Alamy I have also seen following licenses for over $200.00 to the same client. Alamy and the stock industry is not perfect and in my belief Alamy has always done the best that Alamy could, despite a very difficult market. I've been in the business for decades and I look at the long term, not the daily or monthly licenses. I go back to the days before Tony Stone, when images from stock agencies or libraries were licensed for more than $750.00 per use. Those days are gone. FYI: Alamy is the only library or agency that I have worked with that I have never in a decade had to call to ask "Where is my money!" For a decade "Alamy gets paid and I get paid." I do not do "Micro" or even RF. Chuck (Still the original Chuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 When I started with Alamy (2005) my average license was $400.00 + that went down along with the global economy and recently I have seen it rising, sort of like an ocean tide. Over the years I've had many small licenses (under $50.00) and partially thanks to Alamy I have also seen following licenses for over $200.00 to the same client. Alamy and the stock industry is not perfect and in my belief Alamy has always done the best that Alamy could, despite a very difficult market. I've been in the business for decades and I look at the long term, not the daily or monthly licenses. I go back to the days before Tony Stone, when images from stock agencies or libraries were licensed for more than $750.00 per use. Those days are gone. FYI: Alamy is the only library or agency that I have worked with that I have never in a decade had to call to ask "Where is my money!" For a decade "Alamy gets paid and I get paid." I do not do "Micro" or even RF. Chuck (Still the original Chuck) I do too. I was working in the office of an agency in Chicago that Tony Stone purchased at the time I started my own agency in NYC and Chicago. I'm still getting decent rates thru my clients I've worked with for decades. Many of my clients will not do biz with G or the bigger agencies for various reasons. L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nacke Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Linda, Did you ever talk to Marty Lokin (sp)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Don't know who that is Chuck. L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arletta Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Chuck, great post (#20) ! That's true the market is falling down with pricing, it's hard to competite with so many sellers offering so many images (milions). Now I'm affraid that I closed my micros accounts to find that A. pricing is getting almost micro. Of course A. is better than any micro site (fair treating and nice place in sum) but it really worries me how intensively prices are crushing. I go back to the days before Tony Stone, when images from stock agencies or librarieswere licensed for more than $750.00 per use. Those days are gone. When was it? I came to A. in 2010. In 2008 I was reading about so great amounts and couldn't imagine the beauty... People were talking about 500-2000$ for license, encouraging huh? When I joined licences were for 100$ average. Now it's hard to get 75$ and unimaginable to see 750$. Now the question is - what can we do to go back to that nice days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian58 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 My comment was aimed at Alamy, not you John. I am desperately trying to work out how to get out of the mass market and offer something that is seen to actually have some value. I feel generic stock photographers are similar to UK dairy farmers where supermarkets are paying less for milk than the cost of production ... But we don't get any grants from the equivalent of a EU Common Agricultural Policy I too need to diversify and/or change tack. Nope! almost everyone in micro has bought the slogan, diversify! contrary it clearly show, that unique, specialized and niched content sell a thousand times more. perhaps not here but for sure at other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think you missed my point - I think we actually agree. I need, want, to get away from generic stock. It is a mass market where the retailer is the only one that makes real money, through aggregation. Suppliers of commodity products always get squeezed. My point about diversificataion was about finding that specialised niche that both interests me and where my enthusiasm can show through. As I have said in the past, a very small niche would be ideal as I am not looking to get rich, just make enough to live comfortably. A small niche can be more personal and hopefully less attractive to all and sundry so face less competition. The big challenge, as always, is finding the route to market; it is almost certainly not the Alamy, G, C et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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