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#21 Christine

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 01:57 PM

Russell - thank you.  At last someone gets it.  You can call it whatever you want and price it however you want :)  

It just happens to have originated from  the microstock forum* because that is where Leo was at the time,  so a lot of the original terminology started from that as well but it is evolving, if you have a FAA site you can link to that and quite a few people do.  If you don't want to actually licence images via your Symbiostock you can easily link back to here or whereever - which is somewhat of a waste but possible.

 

If any of you are developers you are very welcome to create a RM plug in, I know more than one of us would be happy to use it

 

Look past the terminolgy on the front page - visit Semmick and my sites and have a look around, follow the links to thers and see what they are doing.  If you wanted you could create a totally separate network purely for RM with higher prices and more restrictive licences

 

* ( http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock/ )  I would suggest that anyone wanting to join in grits their teeth and joins us there as that is where the majority of the help is provided in getting started and, even though we are competing against each other we do help each other out as well.


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#22 Semmick Photo

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:37 PM

You can write it on a plank and hit someone on the head with it, doesnt matter, in their world its only for royalty free microstock. You can tell them you can set your own prices and sell your own license, they still keep saying its royalty free micro stock. Some people are selling their images for 300 dollar. If thats micro, then what is Alamy RF?

 

It began as a project in microstock but it evolves, more and more people are adding features and improving the code every day. Now its for everyone who wants to get paid 100%. If you want to build a network of RM images, just do it. 

 

But stop saying its something its not. Dinosaurs comes to mind.

 

Andrew, you didnt state a fact at all, as you have been explained 3 times it wasnt fact, you throw toys out, delete your comment and leave the forum altogether? What gives.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:56 AM

We have a Symbiostock site, and have had a couple of RF sales already.

We plan to upload a few hundred of our RM files, and link them through to Alamy. The reason for this is that we are finding our Symbiostock files ranking high in Google at the moment, whereas Alamy do not seem to be there at all. Does anyone know why Alamy don't rank in Google?

Why not sell RM direct? Because we have tried that through Photoshelter, unsuccesfully. The people who did contact us had no idea what to do, although it was, to us, clearly obvious from the site. We don't know how many left without contacting us.

Will let you know in a few months if our RM sales on Alamy improve :)


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 05:57 AM

Just a few more thoughts about Symbiostock and Alamy RM:-

 

1) Leo Blanchette, whose brainchild this is, is offering to set up a site for you:-

 

http://www.microstoc...fast/msg323259/

 

2) By setting up a Symbiostock site, you could bring lots of new buyers into Alamy. We have actually set up two Symbiostock sites, one linked and one not. The linked site is placing much higher in Google than the unlinked site, so it seems that linking is a good idea.

 

3) At present, it seems that Sym is ranking highly in Google, whereas Alamy isn't there at all, in other words Alamy does not depend on Google for sales. This could in fact be a good thing for Alamy, because we don't know what Google may do in the future. Why not take advantage of Sym's high ranking to introduce new customers to Alamy? We are trying to get income coming in from as many different places as possible, and can see the advantages of continuing with Alamy at the same time as selling on our own behalf.

 

4) Leo's offer includes placing 500 files on a site. You would still need to do some work on those files to optimise SEO, and many Alamy contributors have a lot more files than that, but often have quite a few similars. Why not include one representative file from a shoot, and put a message on every Sym page that more can be found on Alamy? We have set up our site ourselves and uploaded and organised over 2000 files in just a few weeks, it's not that difficult. Once you have 500 up and ready, you can add more at your leisure.

 

5) The more people we have linked to the Symbiostock network, the better will our placing be on Google.

 

6) Don't dismiss Symbiostock because it was introduced through the MSG forum, and is currently all RF, and don't be afraid to ask questions there. You will get a lot of help from smart, committed people.


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 04:17 PM

I'm not a microstock contributor but I have just set up my own Symbiostock website.

 

I actually think it's a brilliant concept and most certainly worth a try. In any case much than complaining about low earnings or decreasing sales at any stock agency.

I hope many more, especially traditional stock shooters, will join the network.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 10:09 AM

Hi FCP

 

I do not know if you have seen but Leo is planning to work on a plug in for more licence options soon so we can have even more options for selling


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:41 AM

Hi FCP

 

I do not know if you have seen but Leo is planning to work on a plug in for more licence options soon so we can have even more options for selling

 

Have not seen it yet but I'm really looking forward to unleash the potential of this concept. Finally the photographer is in control of pricing and sales and will even be supported by the network members. Now we only need to get more (macrostock) people to join.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:40 AM

it's amazing the number of troglodytes who still don't get it -- 20 years ago they were wailing about DIGITAL images destroying their profitable stock sales -- now they can't understand the fact hat COOPERATING with other artists can help everyone!

 

in the 70's we didn't get $200 an image because the images were worth that - we got it because of the enormous overhead involved in shipping physical slides to prospective buyers.  some people still thought their images were worth those high prices and blamed new technology for eroding their sales. 

 

alamy and microstock have their place, and most symbiostock members participate in both.  it's just another alternative to find buyers who don't use the 'traditional' stock methods.  rather than have your images appear in google search as promoted by an agency that pays $.25 you now have the chance to have your images promoted by other artists, and get higher google placement.  what's the downside?  symbiostock is an open source system, so in addition to individual sites, we can create sites that search across ALL symbiostock sites -- such as http://symbiostock.cascoly.com

 

the creator of symbiostock has put in an amazing amount of work and it's there if you want to use it.  these days, who can afford to ignore any potential market?

 

steve


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